UFC 104 Shogun vs. The Dragon, let the complaning begin

[IRONFIST]

Originally Posted by tobiaswins

Yeah I would've liked to see Shogun get one more fight before a title shot. However, with Rampage out of the picture who else is there? Who would be next in line for a title shot besides Shogun?

I agree. Tho IMO Macida will handle him pretty easily and win there is not much more they could do. Rampage is waiting to fight Evans so that takes out number 2 and 3. Forrest is fighting Anderson and evreyone else is not worthy yet to get back a title shot or there first title shot. So i agree with the match up also.

[Rambo121]

Originally Posted by Azamc69

This fights gonna be average. Rua will gas after 3minutes. Machida will play it evasive as hes more interested in retaining his title than he is in entertaining (im not blaming him for that).

Rua should have fought some like Ace or Cane, so they could brawl. Rampage is the only real contender right now for that belt (or anderson, but he refuses to fight lyoto)

get machida's dick out ur mouth boy, to say he has no chance is just dumb.
plus he looked like his gas tank is back to full by his last preformance.

[acidic]

Originally Posted by ccg3332

shogun by tko 1st or 2nd round

he's got much more experience than lyoto against top level competition. lyoto's toughest opponents were evans , silva and tito. he looked bad against tito. evans and thiago silva are newcomers.

You're forgetting about Rich Franklin and Bj Penn..

Lyoto has never lost a fucking round..
Shogun has faced top competition in PRIDE
But hes not the same fight anymore..
what has he done in the UFC..?
"Beat" Mark Coleman.. far from impressive
Lost to Forrest Griffin..
Knocked out Chuck Liddell (On his way out) Also far from impressive in my books

You're looking like this is a walk in the park for Shogun.. just ignorant.

[J.E.M]

Originally Posted by ccg3332

shogun by tko 1st or 2nd round

he's got much more experience than lyoto against top level competition. lyoto's toughest opponents were evans , silva and tito. he looked bad against tito. evans and thiago silva are newcomers.

machidas win list is pretty damn impressive, i see machida winning this fight. way better cardio imo. machida by decision

[Daniyal]

I think Dana White is secretly hoping Shogun knocks off Machida since its pretty apparent that most of the UFC brass thinks Machida is a boring fighter.. they would much prefer someone who fights like Shogun, Lidell or Rampage as their champion.

[Chas]

Originally Posted by Azamc69

This fights gonna be average. Rua will gas after 3minutes. Machida will play it evasive as hes more interested in retaining his title than he is in entertaining (im not blaming him for that).

Which title defenses is your argument based on?

[Caps lock Furry]

Originally Posted by BrawlPark

Shogun's day's in the sun are over. Believe it or not, knee surgery doesn't make you *better*. No surgery does, unless it is surgery to implant titanium knuckles under your skin. He should retire with his last win.

retire? u sir are an idiot. While a surgery does not make him quote on quote "better", it still does not mean his career is over either.

[usmctanker242]

Originally Posted by acidic

You're forgetting about Rich Franklin and Bj Penn..

Lyoto has never lost a fucking round..
Shogun has faced top competition in PRIDE
But hes not the same fight anymore..
what has he done in the UFC..?
"Beat" Mark Coleman.. far from impressive
Lost to Forrest Griffin..
Knocked out Chuck Liddell (On his way out) Also far from impressive in my books

You're looking like this is a walk in the park for Shogun.. just ignorant.

Lyoto never lost a round?? Hes got a split decision win against Sam Greco, had to lose rounds for that. Either way hes looked amazing in his last 2 fights and will probably take the fight, although Shogun definitely has a fighting chance and shouldn't be counted out altogether.

[wyandotterph]

Originally Posted by JudanTobikan

you tard!

just because he had one poor outing against forrest because he gassed
remember chucks head getting bounced off the canvas??

this is a tough fight for me! i love both fighters

but i cn see shogun whipping it away!

Your post says it all. Forrest should get the first crack, I mean he was the champ.

[reignON]

Originally Posted by AntagonistMMA

Personally, I would've like to see Shogun fight one more time before getting a title shot, Baha vs Shogun would be a good #1 contender fight

Well the thing is Dana White actually wanted Shogun to lose to Chuck, that just fucked things up for Dana. The rematch with Coleman man Shogun put up a horrible show. But the thing is who really would want to turn down a title shot? Who knows when they would have offered Shogun another chance so he went for it. I think it's a smart move for him because Lyoto hasn't defended the belt yet and his confidence might not be as high as say Anderson Silva or GSP. Plus Lyoto might be nervous for his first title defense, all giving Shogun a slight edge in the mental department.