is it just me or did matt serra get screwed?

[Boylehatesu]

Originally Posted by Soda Popinsky

You missed the two attempted omaplatas?

No there was omaplata locked on at any point. You dont get points for "almost putting on a submission" if that was the case every time you grabbed your opponent you should get a point for "almost slamming them"

Ridiculous how someone can watch a fight and see what they want to just because of a dislike for another fighter.

FightMetric.com

Has this as the scores.

Strike score: 23 Hughes 20 Serra
Grapple Score: 16 Hughes 15 Serra
For a total of 39 Hughes 35 Serra

Total Strikes on ground

Hughes 61
Serra 16

THAT was major.


http://fightmetric.com/fights/Hughes-Serra.html

View it yourself.

[Hugh G Rection]

Originally Posted by prospero

Serra wasnt fighting to win from the bottom, he wasnt using his BJJ to make any attempt at a sub or to improve his position, he was holding onto matt for dear life waiting for the ref to stand them up, thats not a Win.

Dude, love that fucking AV!!! Where'd you dig that up from?

[Soda Popinsky]

Originally Posted by Boylehatesu

No there was omaplata locked on at any point.

There was for about the first half of the third round. He almost gogoed Hughes.

[Off]

Originally Posted by Jin-Roh

Everyone agrees that Serra won round 1 and that Hughes won round 2. There's no real argument there, except for trolls and nuthuggers.

The problem is that the judges gave round 3 to Hughes, and that is utter bullshit. Hughes had a short knee that was mostly a block and then a a leaping hook that didn't land clean, a takedown, and while on top threw 8 punches to the body and all of them without any power or threat to hurt or finish Serra. That's it. That's all the damage and threat he posed that entire round.

Serra scored a standing body shot, a low kick, and controlled Hughes the moment they hit the ground, already having the shoulder trapped. He had three submission attempts there and prevented any damage from being done by Hughes. Standing up, neither fighter landed anything substantial, but Serra then got the take down, landed 4 nonpower shots to the head, 2 nonpower body punches, and 3 good shots to the head, 1 of them a power shot. And then he even had a last ditch submission attempt.

Hughes never threatened to end the fight at all during that round, while Serra threatened multiple times, all the while controlling and preventing any threat by Hughes.

The only people that give this fight to Hughes are trolls, fanboys, and those on the NSAC payroll.

I do not agree that Serra won round 1. Hughes got knocked silly because their heads collided. You can't give Serra that round based on an illegal strike. Now, take into account that after Hughes recovered he scored a very strong throw straight into side mount, took Serra's back, and threatened a RNC. I think it's obvious that Hughes did more that was legal offensively in round 1 and thus won the round.

Originally Posted by Soda Popinsky

There was for about the first half of the third round. He almost gogoed Hughes.

Could you define "almost?" Because Serra being able to wiggle his big toe on Hughes' cheek from his back doesn't constitute almost having a gogo.

[Soda Popinsky]

Originally Posted by Off

I do not agree that Serra won round 1. Hughes got knocked silly because their heads collided. You can't give Serra that round based on an illegal strike. Now, take into account that after Hughes recovered he scored a very strong throw straight into side mount, took Serra's back, and threatened a RNC. I think it's obvious that Hughes did more that was legal offensively in round 1 and thus won the round.



Could you define "almost?" Because Serra being able to wiggle his big toe on Hughes' cheek from his back doesn't constitute almost having a gogo.

Almost. As in Hughes almost did enough to win the fight. But not quite enough.

[Off]

Originally Posted by Soda Popinsky

Almost. As in Hughes almost did enough to win the fight. But not quite enough.

Horrible job of trying to put it in context. I've never really been into fantasy, though, so I guess that explains it.

[RedNeckJiuJitsu]

It's just you.

[Frank Sinatra]

It was fair imo. Close fight. What damaged Hughes so badly in the 1st was a headbutt, so it shouldn't count so much.

[BEER-RUN]

Originally Posted by Jin-Roh

Everyone agrees that Serra won round 1 and that Hughes won round 2. There's no real argument there, except for trolls and nuthuggers.

The problem is that the judges gave round 3 to Hughes, and that is utter bullshit. Hughes had a short knee that was mostly a block and then a a leaping hook that didn't land clean, a takedown, and while on top threw 8 punches to the body and all of them without any power or threat to hurt or finish Serra. That's it. That's all the damage and threat he posed that entire round.

Serra scored a standing body shot, a low kick, and controlled Hughes the moment they hit the ground, already having the shoulder trapped. He had three submission attempts there and prevented any damage from being done by Hughes. Standing up, neither fighter landed anything substantial, but Serra then got the take down, landed 4 nonpower shots to the head, 2 nonpower body punches, and 3 good shots to the head, 1 of them a power shot. And then he even had a last ditch submission attempt.

Hughes never threatened to end the fight at all during that round, while Serra threatened multiple times, all the while controlling and preventing any threat by Hughes.

The only people that give this fight to Hughes are trolls, fanboys, and those on the NSAC payroll.

Watch the fight again because it seems you were blinded by Serra's nut sack. Serra should have won the fight, there is no way Hughes should have made it to RD 2 after that head butt. He was clearly rocked and Serra couldn't finish.
Serra won RD 1 10-9
Round two was all Hughes. Not that he did alot, but Serra did NOTHING.
Hughes won RD 2 10-9
Round 3 was all Hughes for the first 3:30 mins...he controlled Serra while in the top position, serra had no sub attempts that put Hughes in any danger...Serra got a take down and controlled Hughes for about 1 minute....did no damage, Hughes stood up.

ALL 3 Judges scored it to Matt Hughes...very rare to ever see happen...
RD 3 Hughes 10-9....

Get over it...

[merkins87]

absolutely, i still believe that serra won that fight, if it was pride he most certainly would've won the decision for activity on the ground as well as damage, lnp doesn't work there. in terms of serra losing to a natural welterweight when he himself's a natural lightweight, it speaks volumes about his testicular fortitude, even if it was a dominant loss, he has nothing to be ashamed of.