[curttheboywondr]

Originally Posted by Tang2031

blue belt in muay thai huh...
so what belt are you? lol

apparently there are belts in mt. heh. maybe he just means someone decently trained?

[Whitey_Ford101]

Watch Anderson Silva's first fight with Rich Franklin. He showed everyone how devastating a Muay Thai clinch is. Evan Tanner is also well known for his.

[SJP_SevenLaker]

let wandy demonstrate on you

[Baalthus]

Defending the clinch is very simple and easy:

Just put one knee on the ground.

[zigzzagz]

How deadly is the MT clinch?? Almost a dumb question really. Look what Wandy did to Rampage with it, not once but twice. Look at what A Silva did to Franklin with it. It's horrifyingly deadly if used right. It can create huge face smashing damage with mashed noses, broken jaws, and broken orbital bones.


BTW. Every day there is a poll on the front page of sherdog. Is there anywhere to go to view the results of these polls?? Unlike other polls that send you to the results when you vote, sherdogs does not, and some of them interest me. Help anyone? Sorry for the offtopic.

[December]

Originally Posted by grapefight

i don't see how a person just don't body lock a mt clinch and take them down. cos they can't knee you if your body is tight to theirs... just trip the leg..then presto..on the ground. sure you're going to land in a guard or something. the only problem i see is when a person get in a clinch they panic after getting knee once or twic. so they start to fight their way out (franklin vs silva) by pure instinct they try to punch cos they have two free hands free...believing that guy doing the mt clinch doesn't have hands to block their face.. but if you're dealing with someone that know mt...they do have control of your head. its just like a body lock but instead is a head lock.

so next time don't panic and go on the defense......bodylock get the guy to the ground. then pound away. that mt guy will let go in no time.

its not that simple their pulling you down and keeping you away why do you think page didnt just hug wandy same with frank and silva

[silver_back]

watch Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin 1 and 2 to do a proper clinch

[dlogic22]

Originally Posted by Minh

What stops you from escaping a clinch though? If you moved down is it then the attacker will move down with you?
If you move left or right he will just move left and right because of his forearm gripping you?

And moving down would be worse because the knee is coming up?

Anderson Silva vs rich Franklin
Wanderlei vs Rampage
Mark Kerr versus Ranger scott?


Knees coming up = nasty knockout and broken nose.

The Muay Thai clinch is not hard to escape i believe fighters think that they are ok for a time and feel safe in it for moments, but then quickly realize and get overwhelmed by it. You can break out of it a few ways, but the best way is to reach your hand under the clinch, swim in and grab the same shoulder of your hand so if your reaching with your right hand you grab their right shoulder, then create leverage and break the grip but twisting your body and pulling back. If i showed you once, you'd be amazed at how easy it is to break out. Something else to keep in mind. Lutter shaved his head for reason vs Silva.

[Robert Sothmann]

In my limited experience to use the MT clinch you have to first soften up your opponent a bit. If he is too fresh you might have a bit of trouble locking it in. Thats when the trouble starts because he will have the power/presence of mind to a) hit you with hooks over your arms. b) pull back/lift with a lot of power as you launch a knee.

IMHO,Gotta make them a bit tired or dazed first, then it becomes a great weapon.

[drkglass01]

Originally Posted by BJJ Team

Ask Franklins plastic surgeon

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8...innose2iu7.jpg

Ditto, Rich vs. Silva is an illustration of what not to do if clinched.