The business of being a Fighter (long read). - Page 4

Shawn Hawk · 02-10-2008, 01:18 AM

KK is training to be a pro fighter under some of the best trainers in the world who also train some of the best pro fighters around, just FYI.

**King Kabuki** · 02-10-2008, 01:19 AM

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Look at the internet genius trying to win his argument.

I asked you what your experience is and you said what? Didn't read the question? Didn't want to answer it?

You want to continue the argument without arguing? Ain't you the genius.

Is this the art of arguing without arguing?? Some real Bruce Lee stuff goin' on here.

You want to say nothing & try to put me down as if you've won something & proved something. So what have you proved?

Boy isn't this worthless garbage a bunch of fun! You sure have proved yourself, huh?! Seems you didn't read a damn thing I said.

Awww. Don't be so mad!

*internet sad face*

Zach Earles · 02-10-2008, 01:38 AM

KK is right on with his post, good work

**King Kabuki** · 02-10-2008, 01:51 AM

Sometimes I do alright for a guy who makes absolutely zero sense.

Joe Funaro · 02-10-2008, 02:38 AM

Well I don't have a tag but I'm an Am fighter. I've only had 1 fight, I'm 1-0 and I would have more if not for some shady promoters and convenient injuries that can all be read in my log My Am MMA Prep Log

Alright enough of that, I agree with what King Kabuki said. The only problem is that MMA is young, especially in certain areas and sometimes it comes down to take it or leave it. When your looking for experience, you have to make a choice and decide whats worth what.

As a pro, I think you shouldn't have to pay for anything. Someone is making money off of your fight, don't sell yourself short. Your the product. You should be getting travel, license, hotel and fighter pay (obviously).

Even as an amateur you should be getting something. Theres 2 shows in NJ that hold fights. They don't give shit for am fighters. No hotel, no travel, nothing. It's a 4 hour trip each way for me and its the closest thing for me. On top of that, when I get there, theres no place for me to wait if I'm early, no place for me to change or shower afterwards, nothing. And the promoter still makes money off of me. Thats gay.

In contrast, my brother found www.NAAFS.tv in Cleavland, Ohio. Thats a little farther then NJ from me. The promoter is getting him a room for the night AND travel. He couldn't cover the entire plane ticket for my bro, the travel was based on driving, but he said he would be fine putting it toward a flight for him as long as my bro pays the rest. Thats awesome. Now you can be damn sure that when I'm healed up and ready to fight I'm gonna look at them first, not the crap in NJ. NJ put on a great show, but had nothing for the fighters.

I still might fight in NJ and get nothing because my freinds wanna see, but still, wheres the respect. Your making some guy money, if your amateur your not even getting paid to put your ass on the line and you'll end up spending money to make the promoter money. THATS FUCKED UP!

I never ended up fighting in NJ, my brother did, I went Upstate and fought at a charity event instead. It was a small show, held outside in bumfuck nowhere. The guy gave us a hotel for the night (3 of us), we didn't get travel but it was for charity so thats cool.

The point is don't let promoters mess with you. Theres tons of little shows out there, one of them will be good to you.

raze · 02-10-2008, 03:04 AM

good tips

Metsudragon · 02-10-2008, 03:15 AM

Don't know if I thanked KK or not for this thread, as someone who's looking at getting into MMA seriously(though I come from Boxing/MT, though I haven't had a fight) I use it as sortof a primer now.

For the guy who said you didn't make any sense, unless he has a better guide, he should really shove off, that is all.

nogueirian · 02-10-2008, 03:17 AM

thank you king, its a good read

just in time b4 the new mma movie comes out...lol

John Harris · 02-20-2008, 10:56 AM

Awesome Post! Good Read.

As it is customary to sign contracts for your pro fights, would it make sense to ask for a provision to get paid if something happens to the other fighter and you can't fight? I've seen guys on my fight team pour everything into getting ready for a fight and have it fall apart a week or two out from the fight.

I've also seen where a fight was promised on a particular card and somehow the promoter can't find a fighter to fight against' you.

**King Kabuki** · 02-20-2008, 11:01 AM

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As it is customary to sign contracts for your pro fights, would it make sense to ask for a provision to get paid if something happens to the other fighter and you can't fight? I've seen guys on my fight team pour everything into getting ready for a fight and have it fall apart a week or two out from the fight.

That can be worked into a Contract, but it's not something Promoters are going to be quick to agree to at all unless you're a commodity, because if the fight falls apart they lose the money, too. So the cash just isn't there. Theoretically anyways.

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I've also seen where a fight was promised on a particular card and somehow the promoter can't find a fighter to fight against' you.

This is going to happen a lot in young Combat Sports. It still happens a lot in lower level Boxing. Again it's not always the fault of the Promoter. A lot of guys think they want to be Fighters, until they have to go through what they have to go through to prepare properly. This often leads to guys pulling out, cancellations. Or there's just too many mitigating circumstances. These two points are great points but they reflect things you just have to be patient through.