Who here believes in intelligent design and believes that it should be taught to kids

[RuRu]

Originally Posted by Ultrashogun

How the fuck did that happen?

Mens Rea was very rude and posted too many personal stories, video, photobucket, flickr, and other accounts on Sherdog.

[redjako]

Originally Posted by Mekong Delta

ID should be taught in every school and home in America. Those not willing to learn will be beheaded like the infidels they are.

Allah-hu-Akbar!!

haha.

I don't know why religious folks can't reconcile themselves by saying "well, God was probably smart enough to setup the universe such that man came about in a scientific fashion."

Oh wow

[SilenceKit]

I'm all for teaching "Intelligent Design" so long as it is focused on the truth:

the human race on earth came from an abandoned slave colony established by aliens.

[Mens Rea**]

Originally Posted by RuRu

Mens Rea was very rude and posted too many personal stories, video, photobucket, flickr, and other accounts on Sherdog.

Amazing.

Originally Posted by RuRu

He mentioned you to me. Are you the lawyer or writer?

He talks about me a lot, eh?
Too many personal stories? What an odd thing to say! I suppose that it must seem like a lot to you, as your husband probably tells you every detail that he knows about me. He has been quite interested in my life. It's actually quite strange that he has cataloged so much of my personal information. I actually had to block him from A-I-M. One might say that he's obsessed with me. He certainly has an unhealthy fixation on me.

Deep down, you already know this. You know how much he talks about me. You must have seen the thread that your husband made about me:
Mens Rea: Living Legend and a Friend

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Not long ago, regretfully, I received word of Mens Rea's intent to resign from his position of bad ass Sherdog poster extraordinaire after hitting silver belt. Now, unwillingly, I must accept his resignation. Mens, I think I speak for everyone when I say I truly appreciate your posting and am glad I had a chance to know you.

In addition to exceptional posting, an excellent work ethic, and an enviable talent to flame creationists, Mens has been a loyal friend. Mens, finding someone to fill your shoes will be no easy task. Nevertheless, I wish you the best in your future endeavors. You deserve it.

Sounds like a man-crush, doesn't it?

Sadly, I'm afraid that your husband is going to flip out after being all butthurt due to this unrequited affection. I have real life relationships with real people in person; I never thought of your husband as a friend. Never.

Yet I've had a large impact on your husband's life. First I got him to stop believing in God. Then he changed his diet because of me:

Originally Posted by RuRu

You convinced him not to eat meat. I said that is impossible when he told me because he always said he needs more meat. But he really stopped. Amazing.

Amazing.

It's also amazing that your husband has been running around revealing the content of PMs, a bannable offense. Then again, I can't be bothered to continue an e-feud with low-class people like your husband.

[WorldofWarcraft]

Wow..what drama.

[RuRu]

Originally Posted by Mens Rea

Amazing.
He talks about me a lot, eh?
Too many personal stories? What an odd thing to say! I suppose that it must seem like a lot to you, as your husband probably tells you every detail that he knows about me. He has been quite interested in my life. It's actually quite strange that he has cataloged so much of my personal information. I actually had to block him from A-I-M. One might say that he's obsessed with me. He certainly has an unhealthy fixation on me.

Deep down, you already know this. You know how much he talks about me. You must have seen the thread that your husband made about me:
Mens Rea: Living Legend and a Friend
Sounds like a man-crush, doesn't it?

Sadly, I'm afraid that your husband is going to flip out after being all butthurt due to this unrequited affection. I have real life relationships with real people in person; I never thought of your husband as a friend. Never.

Yet I've had a large impact on your husband's life. First I got him to stop believing in God. Then he changed his diet because of me:
Amazing.

It's also amazing that your husband has been running around revealing the content of PMs, a bannable offense. Then again, I can't be bothered to continue an e-feud with low-class people like your husband.

I am his wife. Husband and wife share everything together. Of course I saw everything you said. But I haven't heard about you after he blocked you months ago on AIM.

You are a sad person. If you spent as much effort in life as you do making a fantasy world online then you would have a better life.

I won't waste more time with people like you. Say what you want to say. I won't worry about the reputation on a website. You know the truth.

[WorldofWarcraft]

Originally Posted by RuRu

I am his wife. Husband and wife share everything together. Of course I saw everything you said. But I haven't heard about you after he blocked you months ago on AIM.

You are a sad person. If you spent as much effort in life as you do making a fantasy world online then you would have a better life.

I won't waste more time with people like you. Say what you want to say. I won't worry about the reputation on a website. You know the truth.

Who blocked who first on AIM?

[baatar]

It seems that not everyone understands that ID does NOT equal creationism.

Creationism is the attempt of some to disregard all scientific evidence gathered by geologists and biologists in the effort to believe that the world is roughly 6000 years old.

Intelligent Design, as I understand it, insists on accepting all scientific evidence--even that evidence that contradicts the old Darwinism--but begs to answer the "why" while exploring the "how". Is it scientific? No, but unlike Creationism, it is not anti-scientific.

I believe in ID, but never do I think that it is appropriate for publicly funded indoctrination of children.

[Xenu**]

Originally Posted by baatar

It seems that not everyone understands that ID does NOT equal creationism.

Creationism is the attempt of some to disregard all scientific evidence gathered by geologists and biologists in the effort to believe that the world is roughly 6000 years old.

Intelligent Design, as I understand it, insists on accepting all scientific evidence--even that evidence that contradicts the old Darwinism--but begs to answer the "why" while exploring the "how". Is it scientific? No, but unlike Creationism, it is not anti-scientific.

I believe in ID, but never do I think that it is appropriate for publicly funded indoctrination of children.

What is "the old Darwinism"?

[jamesmichael7]

Originally Posted by Titan416

It was thought up by a lawyer with absolutely no background in science and has been proven completely and utterly incorrect in a court of law.

America is a joke.

Philip Johnson (who I assume you're referring to) did not think up ID. Johnson critiqued Neo-Darwinian philosophy and argumentation.

If anyone is credited with "thinking up" modern ID, it would have to be cryptographers, forensics, SETI researchers, and archeologists. All guys like Dembski, Behe, Meyer and Woodward did was apply it to the realm of biology.

ID should not be taught in schools though, in my opinion, as anything other than theoretical or philosophical. It hasn't had time to establish itself as a scientific discipline in full form...yet. Heck, even 90% of ID proponents attach all kinds of baggage to what would otherwise be a completely uncontroversial claim--complex specified information is most likely the product of intelligent agency. Period.