Question for Atheists - Page 3

**fingercuffs** · 09-25-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebchenier

you know what engine? Go fuck yourself with your one hand

REDWRATH · 09-25-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy.

Why would you want a creator? As a scapegoat; If something happens and you're not pleased with it. You can say; god mustn't have wanted it that way. Or take away the credit; If you or someone else has done something that you're proud of. You can say; it's all thanks 2 god!

I think we can all admit that atheism is used as a scapegoat for some as well. The moral conscious will guilt some one but since they are atheist they believe they will never be judged so they feel no burden for what ever wrongs they might commit. This goes both ways.

Darwinist · 09-25-2009, 08:45 AM

The idea of a creator is to me far less awe-inspiring and beautiful than the big bang theory and the process of evolution. To find out that some god actually just wished all of this into existence would be a huge step DOWN for the universe.

enginekid · 09-25-2009, 08:47 AM

TS i am not an atheist so i cant partcipate

but i'll tell you something i know to be true,

first: most atheists theological potential (i'm not sure what to call it, but the thing inside normal people that yearns for spiritual awareness - the God shaped hole in ones heart) cannot be appealed to because they have been conditioned by their life experiences and their choices, to summarily reject all thoughts of God.

Second: when many of them and I mean a very high percentage are about to die, their minds begin to flail around in fear and hopelessness when they realize their imminent mortality, and they reach out for the only life line that they can think of, and that life line is God, creator, the maker.

The lucky ones feel no shame in crying out and asking forgiveness, because they know immediately that God will forgive anyone who truly asks it, for they know that if their own child came to them on their knees asking forgiveness they could not turn away.

The unlucky ones feel shame, and as quickly as their fear and thoughts of God took shape, their hatred was kindled, and instead of surrendering to their shame, and casting it off in true repentance, they take hold of that shame and twist it into rage and denial; hatred of the God they deny, yet rage at God cursing us with mortality.

AmericaOverAll · 09-25-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Darwinist

The idea of a creator is to me far less awe-inspiring and beautiful than the big bang theory and the process of evolution. To find out that some god actually just wished all of this into existence would be a huge step DOWN for the universe.

Indeed. The more complex and beautiful the universe and its laws and outcomes of those laws are the better God looks.

"God never wrought miracle to convince atheism, because his ordinary works convince it."

dylanransom · 09-25-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by enginekid

TS i am not an atheist so i cant partcipate

but i'll tell you something i know to be true,

first: most atheists theological potential (i'm not sure what to call it, but the thing inside normal people that yearns for spiritual awareness - the God shaped hole in ones heart) cannot be appealed to because they have been conditioned by their life experiences and their choices, to summarily reject all thoughts of God.

Second: when many of them and I mean a very high percentage are about to die, their minds begin to flail around in fear and hopelessness when they realize their imminent mortality, and they reach out for the only life line that they can think of, and that life line is God, creator, the maker.

The lucky ones feel no shame in crying out and asking forgiveness, because they know immediately that God will forgive anyone who truly asks it, for they know that if their own child came to them on their knees asking forgiveness they could not turn away.

The unlucky ones feel shame, and as quickly as their fear and thoughts of God took shape, their hatred was kindled, and instead of surrendering to their shame, and casting it off in true repentance, they take hold of that shame and twist it into rage and denial; hatred of the God they deny, yet rage at God cursing us with mortality.

Well you're kind of a mess

AmericaOverAll · 09-25-2009, 08:51 AM

Freeman Dyson says the universe was made on the principle of maximum diversity.

"The laws of Nature are constructed in such a way as to make the universe as interesting as possible."

enginekid · 09-25-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fingercuffs

And which religous thread did I say that?

you know what thread you said it in. and no, dont try and fuck with my understanding, you said in one complete sentence

i would pay to see that.

a room of bottled abortions.

you suck.

Entropy. · 09-25-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by REDWRATH

I think we can all admit that atheism is used as a scapegoat for some as well. The moral conscious will guilt some one but since they are atheist they believe they will never be judged so they feel no burden for what ever wrongs they might commit. This goes both ways.

If 'the wrong' they did is precieved as wrong in the public eye, they will be judged and punished. If no 1 ever finds out, than forthat person crime will have paid, it's the harsh reality. But a lot of guilt/shame/bad concious people have about things that are not important/superficial is seriously getting in the way of leading a care free life. That pressure is almost always put on by a society, with a moral high ground 2 cling on 2 judge. This often can be religious. And they are just men that judge, they do it is according to the word of god. But every one has their own interpretation of that. And 2 claim you would know how god intended it, would be very arrogant wouldn't it.

Sebchenier · 09-25-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by enginekid

TS i am not an atheist so i cant partcipate

but i'll tell you something i know to be true,

first: most atheists theological potential (i'm not sure what to call it, but the thing inside normal people that yearns for spiritual awareness - the God shaped hole in ones heart) cannot be appealed to because they have been conditioned by their life experiences and their choices, to summarily reject all thoughts of God.

Second: when many of them and I mean a very high percentage are about to die, their minds begin to flail around in fear and hopelessness when they realize their imminent mortality, and they reach out for the only life line that they can think of, and that life line is God, creator, the maker.

The lucky ones feel no shame in crying out and asking forgiveness, because they know immediately that God will forgive anyone who truly asks it, for they know that if their own child came to them on their knees asking forgiveness they could not turn away.

The unlucky ones feel shame, and as quickly as their fear and thoughts of God took shape, their hatred was kindled, and instead of surrendering to their shame, and casting it off in true repentance, they take hold of that shame and twist it into rage and denial; hatred of the God they deny, yet rage at God cursing us with mortality.

When christians experience near death experiences they wake up believing they encountered God. However Hindus claim they see Yamraj, God of the dead.

Trying to interpret the "light at the end of the tunnel" sensation people experience is the same as interpreting a dream. They're illusions created by a fading brain.