Question for Atheists - Page 2

dylanransom · 09-25-2009, 08:30 AM

You mean if something doesn't exist, and then turns out not to exist?

just want to clarify

Entropy. · 09-25-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CroSpartacus

The religion thread just got me thinking for a bit and I have this question.

Obviously Atheists don't believe in God,, but let's say for the sake of argument there is no God. Would you be happy about it? Or would you want a Creator to exist if you had the power to?

My mom and dad made me.

AmericaOverAll · 09-25-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavos

i'm agnostic but i think most people in general really want to believe in something bigger than themselves. i don't think this is limited to a ''creator/no creator". it could be someone that believes in fate, or maybe even uses their favorite media to guide them like their favorite musician or video game franchise. i don't think i'm making my point too well, sorry... maybe someone else can articulate it better for me.

Like this?

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They that deny a God destry man’s nobility; for certainly man is of kin to the beasts by his body; and, if he be not of kin to God by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature. It destroys likewise magnanimity, and the raising of human nature; for take an example of a dog, and mark what a generosity and courage he will put on when he finds himself maintained by a man, who to him is instead of a God or melior natura [a better nature (Ovid, Metamorphoses, I.21)]; which courage is manifestly such as that creature, without that confidence of a better nature than his own, could never attain. So man, when he resteth and assureth himself upon divine protection and favour, gathereth a force and faith which human nature in itself could not obtain; therefore, as atheism is in all respects hateful, so in this, that it depriveth human nature of the means to exalt itself above human frailty. As it is in particular persons, so it is in nations: never was there such a state for magnanimity as Rome. Of this state hear what Cicero saith; "We may admire ourselves as much as we please, Senators, yet we cannot match the Spaniards in number, nor the Gauls in bodily strength, nor the Carthaginians in cunning, nor the Greeks in art, nor indeed our own Italians and Latins in the homebred and native good sense characteristic of this land and nation. But in our piety, and in our religion, and in our recognition of the one great truth that all things are ruled and ordered by the divine will of the immortal gods—in these things we have surpassed all peoples and nations." (A Speech Concerning the Response of the Soothsayers, IX.19)].

Lavos · 09-25-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dylanransom

You mean if something doesn't exist, and turns out not to exist?

i think i get what the TS is saying. he's asking if an atheist would be glad to truly find out if there was no god, or if they would be glad there was a higher power.

just because somebody is an atheist doesn't necessarily mean they DON'T want to believe in god. it could just be they are sensible and don't believe in one, regardless of wanting to.

JustAnotherGuy · 09-25-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CroSpartacus

The religion thread just got me thinking for a bit and I have this question.

Obviously Atheists don't believe in God,, but let's say for the sake of argument there is no God. Would you be happy about it? Or would you want a Creator to exist if you had the power to?

What?! If they don't believe in 'God' cause they're 'atheists'...why would they care if there wasn't a 'God' that exists. What...

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Originally Posted by enginekid

you're a douche bag through and through, and probably too stupid to even know it.

i read your posts. in the religion thread you say you would pay to see a room filled with aborted fetuses. anyone with a mind and heart as foul as that is nothing more than vile dog.

Hey, religious nutjob, try reading and comprehension next time...plus, it's not even in that thread...

Sebchenier · 09-25-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by enginekid

you're a douche bag through and through, and probably too stupid to even know it.

i read your posts. in the religion thread you say you would pay to see a room filled with aborted fetuses. anyone with a mind and heart as foul as that is nothing more than vile dog.

you know what engine? Go fuck yourself with your one hand

dylanransom · 09-25-2009, 08:35 AM

If I could go back in time, I would be Jesus' mother, and molest him

REDWRATH · 09-25-2009, 08:38 AM

I don't remember the poster but someone on Sherdog made a statement like "I have imagined both a world with nothing but religious zealots and I have imagined a world entirely of militant atheists and both worlds scare me just as much as the other." Probably the most true statement about religion or philosophy I have ever read in here.

Entropy. · 09-25-2009, 08:39 AM

Why would you want a creator? As a scapegoat; If something happens and you're not pleased with it. You can say; god mustn't have wanted it that way. Or take away the credit; If you or someone else has done something that you're proud of. You can say; it's all thanks 2 god!

AmericaOverAll · 09-25-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by REDWRATH

I don't remember the poster but someone on Sherdog made a statement like "I have imagined both a world with nothing but religious zealots and I have imagined a world entirely of militant atheists and both worlds scare me just as much as the other." Probably the most true statement about religion or philosophy I have ever read in here.

They are different sides of the same coin. I find a lot of rabid atheists to be former religious people too. They go from one extreme to another.