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Old 05-10-2008, 01:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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ORLY?

so if fire isn't what is used to melt, bend, and create steel... what is? oh thats right... steel comes from MAGIC!

the equation is pretty simple really...

VERY HOT FIRE (F*CKING JET FUEL) + millions of pounds of weight = melted or softened steel...

what happens when steel is melted or even softened? it loses it rigidity... that means shit falls down...

its pretty simple shit for brains.
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:16 PM   #33 (permalink)

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Is he telling the truth? Could all those factors have contributed? Oh my goodness...
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Old 05-10-2008, 05:38 PM   #34 (permalink)

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This is just like these idiot threads about Israel and the Palestinians. Yawwwwwwn
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:11 PM   #35 (permalink)

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The steel in that video is only 1 inch thick, not exactly the size of an exterior or core column in the WTC. Also notice how the steel needed to be heated to about 980 degrees celsius to bend. There's no proof of the WTC steel actually reaching those temperatures. The evidence actually shows that the steel never reached that high of temperatures. Furthermore, only certain areas would be heated to high temperatures, not the entire building, the rest would have near 100% strength and be cold steel.



The following information is taken from NIST, Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: Mechanical and metelllurgical Analysis of Structural Steel.





FOR WTC TOWERS:
"Finally, in the several columns with known pre-collapse fire exposure, metelllographic analysis provided no conclusive evidence that the steel exceeded 625 Degrees Celsius, based on calibration in furnace exposure studies of WTC steel reported in NIST NCSTAR 1-3E." page 99

Fire Exposure of Exterior Panel Sections: "NO steel was recovered which experienced temperature excursions above 600 degrees celsius for any significant lenght of time as a result of the pre-collapse." page 101


Fire Exposure of Core Columns: "The columns did not exceed 250 degrees Celsius." page 101



FOR WTC 7:
"Although NO steel was recovered from WTC7, a 47-story building that also collapsed on September 11, properties for steel used in its construction were estimated based on literature and contemporaneous documents"- page: abstract iii


Also... The first tower to collapse was only exposed to heat for 56 minutes...
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah, you're right man. That theorie that tower 7 fell all on its own, while not being hit by a jetliner is pretty outrageous. I agree.

The lack of response time for Andrews Air Force base, who is within minutes of the Pentagon is completely absurd. Its not like those guys dont train to scramble as fast as possible. Completely absurd theory to think they should have been in the sky much faster then they actually pulled off.

I also find it "f'n stupid" when people bring up the war games being carried out on of all days, 9-11 that were mimicing the exact same scenarios that were actually taking place that day. Only, they were war games which apparently caused some "confusion" among Norad and apparently everybody else as the real attack, not a drill, was taking place.


And everybody knows there was plenty of wreckage in Pennsylvania to back up the story of a passenger take over, "lets roll" which subsequently brought the the plane down in a field.


The "f'n stupid" people who bring this crap up, over and over again really should hand their common sense card back in. Thank god we have posters like you, niloroth to straighten these people out and tell them the real story.


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Old 05-10-2008, 08:49 PM   #37 (permalink)

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Thank you for supporting the 9/11 Truth movement. I'm with you all the way brotha. Can't believe a lot of people in America are still ignorant to the facts and how we were fooled by our American govt. If people would just take a little time and do a little research they'd know the facts of 9/11 and how our own government lied and possibly played a role in 9/11
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TS will you address my early post #13 Or are you willfully ignoring it?
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What if this is all true? What is the best course of action? I'm just one man, what difference can I make? Should I spam internet message boards with this information? Is that the best way to deal with it?
Start by finding a nice beach or desert. Then, stand with your feet as wide apart as possible. Bend at the waist until your head nears the surface. I'll give the rest later!
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