[DuMaX]

Originally Posted by 7wtc911

2) Bin Laden NOT Wanted
Despite popular belief that Bin Laden is a "wanted" man for the attacks(that's what we were told immediately following the attacks). There still has not been a formal indictment for his role, if any. Yes if, any. FBI's #1 Most Wanted Terrorist. As you can see, it is a FACT that there is NO mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's FBI "most wanted" page. Why has he not been formally accused? Despite what "you" may have believed to be true and credible evidence.
Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden

Because we all know that the FBI page is a legal document, right? Because if it is on the internet is must be true, right?

Originally Posted by 7wtc911

3) Unexplained Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7: 47 stories tall, located one block from wtc complex- one football field distance from WTC 1, Offices inside include: Department of Defense (DOD), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Secret Service (SS), Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM), Salomon Smith Barney, American Express Bank International, and more.

Here are the only three official government explanations: 9/11 Commission;Federal Emergency Management Agency; National Institute of Standards and Technology

9/11 Commission Report: Not ONE word of it in the 567 page report

FEMA Report: "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain UNKNOWN at this time."[Ch. 5, p. 31.]

NIST Report: No answer yet. Have NOT yet reached a conclusion. They only have a “working HYPOTHESIS,” which is much different than a CONCLUSION.[Question 14] They were supposed to have reached a conclusion in early 2007 but now predict a report in July, 2008.

http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_deck.jpg
http://www.national911memorial.org/v...al/wtc_map.jpg
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/a...100408wtc3.jpg
http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/LD06SAf0p9A&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/FORhPR-5qWQ&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y5_e5yROoqY&hl=en

Building 7 fell after it had a building fall on it, then burning for several hours. Debris from the the falling towers severed/damaged critical columns and caused a fire that lead to the complete collapse of the building. Not to mention the 12,000 gallons of diesel fuel that was also in the building that fueled the fire.

Originally Posted by 7wtc911

4) The Pentagon Video Tapes: are there only 2 video tapes???Both that only show an unclear OBJECT, not a distinguishable AIRLINER
How can any off course hijacked commercial airliner enter restricted and highly defended airspace 51 minutes after the 1st plane hits the 1st tower and 34 minutes after the 2nd plane hits the 2nd tower. It then punches one hole in a straight trajectory on the 1st floor of the pentagon, through 6 pentagon walls (exit c-ring) that are heavily reinforced concrete?
http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/Attack%20Path.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/PentagonRings.jpg
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/exit2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/-PsEWyrKQqw&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/yCTLqtev9f4&hl=en

The pentagon doesn't need cameras watching the highways and sides. The 2 videos we do have are from entry machine (where you insert a ticket in order to raise the barrier and enter the pentagon). Sure it is hazy, but the cameras were signed to take pictures of people and cars a few feet away and not Airliners traveling at over 500 miles an hour on the other side of the pentagon.

You misunderstand, while it is in fact restricted airspace, the problem your point is that at the time, US Military radars only monitored the airspace around the borders because there wasn't the concept that there would ever be a real threat in the interior of the country. So the only systems that could of monitored the planes was the air traffic controllers, the problem was - that they needed the transponders of the planes to be turned on (the hijackers turned them off) to locate and identify them. It wasn't until 08:56 that the FAA had any idea that there was an emergency with AA77, but had no idea where it was. Dulles controllers detected AA77 but thought it was a fighter aircraft due to its high speed and sharp turns (not common on 757s). Reagan Airport controllers also detected the unidentified plane and asked a passing C-130 Hercules to identify and pursue the aircraft. The pilot of the C-130 located and identified that plane as either a Boeing 757 or 767 and probably from American Airlines (due to the colour of the fuselage), which was at about 09.30 - 7 minutes and 44 seconds before it impacted the pentagon. The C-130 followed AA77 and even witnessed its impact with the pentagon. So at most there was less than 8 minutes from when the plane was identified and located, that there could of been a response (not withholding the fact that they hadn't even confirmed if it had been hijacked or not), certainly not enough time to do anything meaningful.

The trajectory wasn't straight as you claim and was actually angled from the right (if you stand outside facing the pentagon);



The plane didn't only impact the first floor but also the second floor, so wherever you get your information from is pretty poor, guess we can't really rely on any of your other "facts" either right?

Believe it or not, reinforced concrete walls (or 6 of them) are not much of a barrier to an +250,000lb object traveling at +500 miles an hour. Also, despite most people's perceptions about reinforced concrete - the pentagon walls were not designed to survive such a significant impact.

[scoobydoo]

9/11 conspiracy theories are tired. Fairly certain that there have been one or two on here before.

[Ezra Pound]

Originally Posted by 7wtc911

"We will NEVER forget!" was the theme quickly following the horrible September 11, 2001 attack. We were lied to from the beginning. We have either been lied to or not told the truth about the Air Quality at Ground Zero, Bin Laden, WTC 7, The Pentagon/flight 77, 9/11 in general, among other things. It's 7 years later and the majority of people have everything on their mind besides the specific attack that day on America. Perhaps because it is not the most pleasant thing to keep in mind, or maybe because they are busy watching "American Gladiators" on TV, or maybe some other reason. Anything that casts doubt on the governments account is usually dubbed as a "conspiracy theory" and therefore inherently illogical. Although the official account is a "conspiracy theory", many engage in double think by not recognizing the official account as a conspiracy(crime committed by two or more individuals) theory (something that explains or predicts facts or events). The following information that I am about to present is not opinion, only fact.



1) Air was NOT safe to breathe: there are still MANY rescue workers who are sick and dying from exposure to toxic dust that was at ground zero. Even though we were assured by our government that the air was "safe to breathe".

"Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink," U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, September 18, 2001.

360 post-9/11 workers have died, including 80 of cancer, says state May 8th 2008
"It's the tip of the iceberg," said David Worby, who is representing 10,000 workers - 600 with cancer - who say they got sick after working on rescue and recovery efforts.



2) Bin Laden NOT Wanted
Despite popular belief that Bin Laden is a "wanted" man for the attacks(that's what we were told immediately following the attacks). There still has not been a formal indictment for his role, if any. Yes if, any. FBI's #1 Most Wanted Terrorist. As you can see, it is a FACT that there is NO mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's FBI "most wanted" page. Why has he not been formally accused? Despite what "you" may have believed to be true and credible evidence.
Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden



3) Unexplained Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7: 47 stories tall, located one block from wtc complex- one football field distance from WTC 1, Offices inside include: Department of Defense (DOD), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Secret Service (SS), Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM), Salomon Smith Barney, American Express Bank International, and more.

Here are the only three official government explanations: 9/11 Commission;Federal Emergency Management Agency; National Institute of Standards and Technology

9/11 Commission Report: Not ONE word of it in the 567 page report

FEMA Report: "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain UNKNOWN at this time."[Ch. 5, p. 31.]

NIST Report: No answer yet. Have NOT yet reached a conclusion. They only have a “working HYPOTHESIS,” which is much different than a CONCLUSION.[Question 14] They were supposed to have reached a conclusion in early 2007 but now predict a report in July, 2008.

http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_deck.jpg
http://www.national911memorial.org/v...al/wtc_map.jpg
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/a...100408wtc3.jpg
http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/LD06SAf0p9A&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/FORhPR-5qWQ&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y5_e5yROoqY&hl=en




4) The Pentagon Video Tapes: are there only 2 video tapes???Both that only show an unclear OBJECT, not a distinguishable AIRLINER
How can any off course hijacked commercial airliner enter restricted and highly defended airspace 51 minutes after the 1st plane hits the 1st tower and 34 minutes after the 2nd plane hits the 2nd tower. It then punches one hole in a straight trajectory on the 1st floor of the pentagon, through 6 pentagon walls (exit c-ring) that are heavily reinforced concrete?
http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/Attack%20Path.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/PentagonRings.jpg
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/exit2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/-PsEWyrKQqw&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/yCTLqtev9f4&hl=en

You completely overlooked the "dancing arabs", their spy ring of over 200, urban moving systems, them leaving the country no questions asked...etc........

[IrishBeatDown]

Originally Posted by stu3ufc

steel buildings do not collapse to fire

ORLY?

so if fire isn't what is used to melt, bend, and create steel... what is? oh thats right... steel comes from MAGIC!

the equation is pretty simple really...

VERY HOT FIRE (F*CKING JET FUEL) + millions of pounds of weight = melted or softened steel...

what happens when steel is melted or even softened? it loses it rigidity... that means shit falls down...

its pretty simple shit for brains.

[AdamL]

2001 called, it wants its conspiracy theories back.

[Fanu]

Originally Posted by stu3ufc

steel buildings do not collapse to fire

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[Depth]

Originally Posted by stu3ufc

steel buildings do not collapse to fire

Fires within tall buildings, usually do not include thousands of gallons of jet fuel......and a 300 mph impact of a plane will cause the overall building structure a little damage.

[USCRedZ34]

I can hear your horn honking and little children crying because of you from way over here you clown

[niloroth]

Originally Posted by Fanu

SpikedHumor.com » Purgatory IronWorks: Response to 911 Post » SpikedHumor.com

Awesome.

If some one the 9/11 deniers would actually venture outside of the conspiracy sites, they would begin to see how F'n stupid their theories actually are.

[Flexwave2003]

Originally Posted by niloroth

Awesome.

If some one the 9/11 deniers would actually venture outside of the conspiracy sites, they would begin to see how F'n stupid their theories actually are.

Yeah, you're right man. That theorie that tower 7 fell all on its own, while not being hit by a jetliner is pretty outrageous. I agree.

The lack of response time for Andrews Air Force base, who is within minutes of the Pentagon is completely absurd. Its not like those guys dont train to scramble as fast as possible. Completely absurd theory to think they should have been in the sky much faster then they actually pulled off.

I also find it "f'n stupid" when people bring up the war games being carried out on of all days, 9-11 that were mimicing the exact same scenarios that were actually taking place that day. Only, they were war games which apparently caused some "confusion" among Norad and apparently everybody else as the real attack, not a drill, was taking place.


And everybody knows there was plenty of wreckage in Pennsylvania to back up the story of a passenger take over, "lets roll" which subsequently brought the the plane down in a field.


The "f'n stupid" people who bring this crap up, over and over again really should hand their common sense card back in. Thank god we have posters like you, niloroth to straighten these people out and tell them the real story.


All is not lost in this world.