[RoadKing Custom]

Originally Posted by GracieMMABarra

He has to have a MMA clothing company or be in marketing to state an opinion? Damn I didn't know that

Of course not.

It just makes you look even more like a dumb ass when you talk like you're an expert, then have no experience in what you're talking about.

An MMA clothing company, or being in marketing, would make his opinion more valid. No?

[fightingrabbit]

Originally Posted by RoadKing Custom

Of course not.

It just makes you look even more like a dumb ass when you talk like you're an expert, then have no experience in what you're talking about.

An MMA clothing company, or being in marketing, would make his opinion more valid. No?

Actually... Who are you trying to sell to? Fighters? Middle aged men? Elderly folks? Or punk ass MMA fanboys like me and the other majority of Sherdog? Yeah.. you dont have to be a marketing genius to answer that one.

So now whose opinion is more valid?

But if its any consolation to you and CL. I really do hope your brand does better than
'One More Round'. Congratulations, Toez Up is not the dumbest i've ever heard. Though i'd say its a close second.

[RoadKing Custom]

Originally Posted by fightingrabbit

lol. Actually i did, like 2 pages ago. Want me to link you or something?

LOL pff. I might have went far but this is the OT, and if anything you should thank me for my harsh critique. When i speak out, I embody an important percentage of your customers. What i say, People are already thinking.

and jeez.. was this HONESTLY the FIRST time someone told you your product was an eyesore?

Looking through this thread, maybe like 90% thought it looked and sounded like crap. And maybe 10% liked it.

Then you got Road King Custom, posting up pictures of Fighters wearing TOEZ UP. lol. WHATS YOUR POINT?? You gonna tell me Xyience is the shit now because Chuck Liddell drinks their drinks and wears their shorts? Please..

Now maybe if you post some pics of some everyday MMA fanboys wearing it in a crowd at the UFC. then maybe.. i'll shut my trap.

Nice work with the edit button, you're the type of poster whose posting gets better after the fact.

My point is whoever started the company:

Took a chance, created a name and logo, went out and found fighters to sponsor, helped the fighters and the brand get exposure on some pretty big MMA cards, are taking a chance in a sport they love, and to date seem to be doing a good job.

Your opening post is you saying the name/logo sucks and you could've done soooo much better. Yet you have nothing to show, but your empty bravado. Other wise you'd be putting up some evidence of things you've done successfully, other then edit posts.

My point is simple really.

[GracieMMABarra]

Originally Posted by RoadKing Custom

Of course not.

It just makes you look even more like a dumb ass when you talk like you're an expert, then have no experience in what you're talking about.

An MMA clothing company, or being in marketing, would make his opinion more valid. No?

So basically by the logic, one can't have a valid opinion on a subject unless they are involved with it one way or another. Does it help yes, does it mean their automatically their opinion is more valid no. They can be dumbass also with or without education on the subject. I know many people who don't train but could run laps around anyone knowledge wise about MMA. Im not trying to start shit, I just trying to state the other prospective.

[RoadKing Custom]

Originally Posted by fightingrabbit

Actually... Who are you trying to sell to? Fighters? Middle aged men? Elderly folks? Or punk ass MMA fanboys like me and the other majority of Sherdog? Yeah.. you dont have to be a marketing genius to answer that one.

So now whose opinion is more valid?

But if its any consolation to you and CL. I really do hope your brand does better than
'One More Round'. Congratulations, Toez Up is not the dumbest i've ever heard. Though i'd say its a close second.

I'm not trying to sell anybody anything. I have absolutely nothing to do with the company. I don't know anything about them. Except that I see their name on the shorts of fighters I'm watching.

And if they keep doing well, you may very well see more fans wearing their gear.. and that would be great wouldn't it.

[fightingrabbit]

Originally Posted by CL Ice

I would like to know how else to incorporate a logo based around the name Toezup, without actually using the current logo.

Well doesnt that fact that you cant think of any graphics or logos to relate to the name, tell you something isnt right about it? Or that it just isnt going to work?

I mean, the very best they could come up with was a pair of feet! They really musta stretched their brains for that one..

But dont take my word for it, im no genius when it comes to this stuff.

[Shizzy]

What does toez up even meanz?

[fightingrabbit]

Originally Posted by RoadKing Custom

Nice work with the edit button, you're the type of poster whose posting gets better after the fact.

oh its true. I cant live when i think my sentences are structually unsound.

[White Snake]

Bottoms Up would be a better name

[Shizzy]

Originally Posted by White Snake

Bottoms Up would be a better name

lol