[mbinder]

Alright. This is where I am putting a thought out response to your TFL videos. No harassing, no name calling, just serious talk. I encourage other people to do the same.

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Alright. So since you took the time to give us a piece of your mind, I figured I'd take this chance to be frank.

While I completely understand your movement and what it is trying to do, and truly feel sorry that you are so lonely, I just don't agree with TFL. I'm not stupid, childish, closed minded, or anything of that sort, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Sure, I've felt lonely also, and it's no good. But I truly believe that, within reason, no one is forced to do something unless they let it happen. You are lonely because you are leting yourself be lonely.

You can't possibly deduce that from a few bad experiences with dating websites, you are destined to a life of solitude. Do you know something? For every success story you see on eHarmony commercials with the shitty music, there are probably millions of failures. Millions of connections that just aren't made. Millions of guys snubbed by woman. And MILLIONS OF WOMEN SNUBBED BY GUYS. It's not as if men are the only "victims" here. And you know what, that's to be expected. Our culture is extremely superficial, for better or worse. People are quick to make judgments about others based solely on a few criteria, which you rightfully point out. Still, that doesn't mean everyone does. If you truly wanted to, I bet you could leave your house and go find someone that genuinely cares about you. That person is out there... but you are not going to find her by sitting behind a computer screen posting videos blaming women for your loneliness.

Now, in your video you said that I took things out of context regarding my thoughts on Bill... I did nothing of the sort. He clearly is in a rough spot and is not happy, but that is NOT an excuse for making creepy comments about taking pleasure in seeing a story about a murdered woman, or saying woman shouldn't be shocked when they get murdered, or that a murdered woman has it better than a lonely guy. I'd like to hear how you think I am taking any of that out of context. You are right, I don't know him -- He might be a loving father, and a great guy. AND LIKE I MENTIONED AS WELL, I feel bad for him. Still his loneliness does not give him the right to say fucked up stuff about women.

So, to sum up -

1.) I am sorry you and Bill and Steve are so lonely, but -

2.) It is partially self inflicted. While it might suck, you would be well served by at least going out into the world and trying to find that special someone, because

3.) You can't use bad experiences from dating websites as barometers of women's psyche and motivation as a whole. All women do not have some coordinated plan to screw you and your friends over.

4.) EVERYONE IS SUPERFICIAL, at least to some degree. But don't let that stop you. If you are truly lonely, go out into the world knowing that there are a ton of people who are less superficial that others, and that WILL like you.

5.) Bill might not actually be a serial killer, but his comments in that one video are genuinely disturbing. And for the record, I never called him a hick, illiterate, or said he should have his child taken away from him.

Well, that's that. I hope you'll gather form this that I am not childish or stupid. I hope you consider my opinions just as I have considered yours.

Take it easy.

[Foxx_MMA]

I posted this in the other thread but here goes
First off i Dwayne i never called your boy bill illiterate nor have i called you fat. You called me a child and i suppose my E fuck up makes that fair game now here is why your movement is a joke. So here you go dwayne here is a rational argument from a child.

You have more broad generalizations than every other state run fascist/socialist movement in history. You blanket all women which is more broad than Nazi's did in 1938 saying the Jews were stealing all their money and inferior people. You have some thesis that women want to treat men like shit and hope to make you miserable forcing you into a perpetual life of lonEliness. <--- ( proper spelling with the big E should help my argument not be childish). You prove your beliefs with these videos of "evidence"from dating sites which do nothing more than prove some people are concerned about appearance or to a larger extent are superficial. True to some degree but you know what you do the same thing. Thats why you buy those hats you wear in your videos Dwayne and store bought clothes and don't walk around in burlap sacks.

Second you are completely oblivious to the majority of people who have happy relationships. You have some theory that women are evil this that and the other thing and refuse to see why some people have very happy and fulfilling relationships. Rather than see a common bond between you and your supporters one which causes you all to have trouble in relationships, you blame women instead of yourselves. When Bill goes around saying watching women get killed makes him happy it truly is a shocking mystery why he might have trouble getting a date. A serious chance of being strangled and winding up in pieces in a forest preserve is not an aphrodisiac.

Lastly you or perhaps your cronies start threatening people over the internet women no less. Rather than debate your points you come up with brilliant reasoning such as murder victims bring it upon themselves, and when that fails you name call and threaten. This is ridiculous and pretty hypocritical when you call me a child for misspelling. So how do you respond to people like this woman who basically says you and your followers are using the internet to harass her people like this


So there Dwayne if you want to know my problem with you guys its this
I am calling you out respond to these points and focus on the issues. Do not take the easy way out like you have been and talk about people's grammatical errors, spelling and weight comments tackle the real issue.

[Lavos]

i think all you guys need a new hobby or something

[mbinder]

Originally Posted by Lavos

i think all you guys need a new hobby or something

What the fuck else is there to do at 5am? And I wouldn't really call it a hobby. It took all of 10 minutes. The guy called me out in a video, so I figured I'd respond. After I hear what he has to say to this, I'm throwing in the towel on the TFL thing. But I wanted to say what I wanted to say.

[Art_Wanderlei]

As chairman, founder and owner of the TFL empire. I declair this thread : SERIOUS THREAD.

I'd like tubby to man up and seriously answer some of these questions. All joking aside, drop the victim roll and MAN UP.


Someone get a picture of serious cat up in here, preferably with glasses.

[Johnny Rico]

Originally Posted by Lavos

i think all you guys need a new hobby or something

lulz but watch the drama unfold...

The only thing I can do here is give advice. I'm sure these guys have buddies in their lives who support them and wish they could get what it is they're looking for so desperately; pussy. So gents, how about it? Go find a fat ugly chick with low standards who likes the same TV shows and meals and live happily ever after.

Or don't try a "Mcdiet" (assholes) and get an Extra Large diet coke thinking you're doing yourself a favor. Or eat the bullshit salads... or basically ANYTHING anywhere that has a drive through. Stop being a lazy waste and learn to cook.

Drink nothing but water. And dude, it's 2008. HEALTHY FOOD TASTES GOOD. Eat lots of vegetables, organic natural foods high in fiber low in sugars and fats. Eat shit you cook at home, nothing someone else prepares for you. Flavor means nothing when you're as fat as you are, Dwayne. I'm only addressing this issue because it's an obvious health risk. But it's also probably the reason you can't get a date. That's just the logical conclusion I'm sure you've reached but aren't willing to accept. You want the easy way out... a woman who loves you for you so you don't have to make any changes essential to your survival and happiness.

Drink protein shakes, don't eat for taste; EAT FOR RESULTS. Break a serious sweat with cardiovascular excerise and maintain a consistently high heart rate. Watch how proud you'll be when you step up and get your life back (or started, in your case), and WATCH how women want to talk to you... Actually, probably just tolerate you, but still better than TFL...

Or cheat and get gastric bypass.

Regardless, put some OBVIOUS work into yourself, and someone might be willing to spend some of their precious time with you.

[Guroo]

All of my post so far on TFL have tried to be constructive and it looks like the guys here who have taken the time to try and construct an argument against the crap you guys are dribbling have hit the nail on the head. So i wont bother to try and argue against it.

I am just using this thread as an opportunity to let you know that your plight is seriously starting to bore me, its quite obvious that nothing that any sane individual tells you is sinking in and as a result i am out.

From now on i couldn't care less about your existence and will not waste anymore of my time or my posts on your ridiculous attempt to gain attention.

Oh and this is not the place to be picking a fight. We have some serious e-tufs hanging around aptly demonstrated by the posting of the big boy's address.

[JJ FRENCH]

[JordanLUFC]

Slightly gheyberry but meh

[Iron Braveheart]

Mbinder: I figured I'd take this chance to be frank.

Ok, then I'll be Bradford.