[Titan416]

Originally Posted by Stooge

This list is even more ludicrous than fu-noob's original claim. Bosh, Parker, Calderon, KG, Carter, and Bass are not better mid-range shooters than Wade. A couple of those aren't even close. Kapono and Peja might be but they hardly ever get a good shot at that range so I think it's fair to exclude them as well. And guys like West, Deng, Melo, and Williams are a toss-up. Ray, Korver, Nash, Rip, Kobe, and Dirk, are hands down better along with Pierce and possibly T-Mac.

Bosh has a more effective mid-range shot then KG. He is the most effective mid-range PF in the entire league. By Parker, I am talking Anthony Parker. The guy who was averaging almost 30 PPG when Bosh was injured off Mid-range and three point shooting alone. Carter has been a top Mid-range shooter since his busted up knee's stopped him from driving, and KG knocks down more mid-range shots then Wade does.

Bosh has a 50 percent FG percentage and almost never drives. In fact it's one of the big criticisms the Toronto media has of him. He came into the league and drove on everyone. Then he developed his mid-range shooting better and thats just about all he does now. If you watch Bosh highlights, you rarely see any driving plays of him from the last 2+ seasons. Not only that but he has a 40 percent three point percentage, and an 80 percent FT percentage. He is the best shooting PF in the NBA.

This is why Toronto is trying to get a player like Jermaine Oneal, and wants to draft a slashing player similar to WADe. It's because nobody on are team is consistant while driving. We mainly shoot, which is why the Raptors are one of the best shooting teams in the NBA and the number 1 three point team.

[DanKO]

Boozer is amazing, but post-season he's struggled.

[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by Titan416

....Wade isn't the best mid-range shooter at all. Not even close. Not even remotely close. He has a high FG percentage because of his driving. Not because of his mid-range shot. He doesn't have a horrible mid-range shot like James does, but it's not in the top 15.

Here are examples of better mid-range shooters.


Kobe, KG, Melo, Rip,Deng,West, Bass, Calderon, Nowitzki, Nash, Williams, Korver, Ray, Peja, Carter, Kapono, Bosh, Parker, etc..

I really don't know why you think FG percentage means you are a top mid-range shooter. Dwight Howard, who has no mid-range shot at all. Nothing, has a 60 percent fg percentage, and an 80 in the all-star game. Are you telling me he is a better mid-range shooter then Bosh, who has arguably the deadliest 12 foot game out of any big in the NBA?

Are you telling me he is a better mid-range shooter then Melo?

give me a fucking break.

LOL. Wade shot an astounding 44% on JUMPSHOTS last year, when he was healthy, as opposed to Melo who shot at 40%.

NBA Player Shooting Detail stats

There's your source so you don't think I'm bullshitting. I suggest you add that to your favorites.

Not once did I suggest FG% is the only indicator of how good of a shot you have; regardless, I broke it down even further for you, into PURE JUMPSHOTS (in canadian terms, meaning that the only fg attempt they take into account is a jump shot and no layups.) But there is much more than just SHOOTING that comes into play when evaluating a players mid-range game.

None of those players you mentioned have a more consistent mid-range game than Wade or Rip by the way.

[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by The Gem

hah you are a joke, who is a better shooter than Kevin Martin?

and yes, I am unfortunately a Knicks fan. and Wade and Manu do not play the same style. Manu can actually hit 3s, especially international 3s. He is also lefty which changes everything.

Who is a better shooter? Kobe, Arenas, Peja, Nash, Ray, Dirk, etc...

You're an idiot.

[ryouboard]

USA needs a defensive big man that can rebound, cover defensive mistakes by guards and wings, and can run the floor. Why didn't they pick up Tyson Chandler?

Also, they could have used another outside shooter in Ray Allen or at least a deadly mid range shooter like Rip Hamilton. They need to spread the floor and make zone defenses pay.

I think USA's gonna have a difficult time scoring against collapsing defenses unless Melo, Redd, and Bryant get extremely hot with their outside shooting. But all three can go into shooting slumps. Better hope they get and remain hot in Beijing.

[Titan416]

Originally Posted by fu-noob

LOL. Wade shot an astounding 44% on JUMPSHOTS last year, when he was healthy, as opposed to Melo who shot at 40%.

NBA Player Shooting Detail stats

There's your source so you don't think I'm bullshitting. I suggest you add that to your favorites.

Not once did I suggest FG% is the only indicator of how good of a shot you have; regardless, I broke it down even further for you, into PURE JUMPSHOTS (in canadian terms, meaning that the only fg attempt they take into account is a jump shot and no layups.) But there is much more than just SHOOTING that comes into play when evaluating a players mid-range game.

None of those players you mentioned have a more consistent mid-range game than Wade or Rip by the way.

What you linked says the following.

38 percent 2pt Jump shooting, avg'ing a gigantic 8.1 points with 57 percent of his attempts coming from that range.

Thats pretty horrible, and many players are far better.

[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by Titan416

What you linked says the following.

38 percent 2pt Jump shooting, avg'ing a gigantic 8.1 points with 57 percent of his attempts coming from that range.

Thats pretty horrible, and many players are far better.

06-07...he clearly didn't play like himself this past year with his injury and all.

[Saku4me]

Wade has a great midrange jumper. From 15-20ft, Wade is very very efficient. I thought he proved that in the 2006 NBA finals already. I guess the hate will never end. Is he in the top of the league..no he isn't but I'll take his mid-range jumper over Melo, James, Paul, and so on. The only guys on the roster with a better mid-range jumper is Bryant and Williams.

[jsun]

Need more than one center should have got Tyson Chandler and there are to many point guards

[White Snake]

Sebastian Telfair, Jason Richardson and Vince Carter should be on Team USA.