[darthcrab]

Originally Posted by Valiss

Oh it's european word for 'Gangs'

AFPMSL, no it isnt, its just a word, they aint gangs, yeah, a "gang" of people, not hooligans, yeah, they cause trouble, but they are a firm, not "hooligans" lol, such a shitty word

[canadian mongoo]

watching the game is so boring you have to be hammered to enjoy it.....Soccer + Beer = fighting

soccer- beer = ZZZZZZZZz

[darthcrab]

how ironic, a canadian talking about boring

[Valiss]

Originally Posted by darthcrab

AFPMSL, no it isnt, its just a word, they aint gangs, yeah, a "gang" of people, not hooligans, yeah, they cause trouble, but they are a firm, not "hooligans" lol, such a shitty word

LOL you've cleared nothing up.

But I have read the thread and it's pretty much gangs. A rose by any other name....

[BuryConn]

Originally Posted by JordanLUFC

Ok, everything i've highlighted, is in relation to football.

If Man Utd/City/Burnley etc didn't exist, the firms wouldn't exist, and the wouldn't go around smashing each other now would they

Football is used as the excuse they need to act upon their urges to fight. Why would a Man City fan go watching two teams he has no connection with if there wasn't going to be any fighting? Why would a Burnley fan fight against his fellow supporters if the football came first?

You're right that the clubs and the firms are inextricably linked and there would be no firms without the football but i'm pretty sure these people would use some other outlet for their aggression if the football wasn't there and they'd still be fighting. Just against different people and for different reasons.

[YeahBee]

^^^^ I am not so sure about that, some of them would no doubt end up in violence but some hooligans are "normal" people from differnt social backgrounds

[BuryConn]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

^^^^ I am not so sure about that, some of them would no doubt end up in violence but some hooligans are "normal" people from differnt social backgrounds

Maybe some of them are just genuine supporters who get caught up in violence when going to matches but i don't know. There are some lads i grew up with who have always been fans of our local team, Bury. They call themselves the firm and give it the big come on to opposition fans throughout the match or when police are there to defuse the situation but i don't think they ever fight. It's just not in their nature and never has been. They just like to act hard. The other hooligans i've met from City and Utd however love to fight and do it for any reason they can find. Whether it's to do with football or not. I think it has to be part of your mentality if you're going to do something like that

[YeahBee]

Originally Posted by Valiss

Ummm no.

"Some hooligans are hanging around the shop" means that some punks are harrassing the shop or the owner.

Danerous Youth is someone more akin to a gang member or something. No one would use the word 'hooligan' seriously in the US.

That said, I find it odd that people form gangs over sports games. I mean, it's a game.

Blasphemy!

And don't sit on your high horse as an American



Isn't fist fights quite common in MAdison Square GArden? mostly in regards to hockey but...

Riots when the red sox won?

[David Koresh]

Thankfully we have numerous sports to dilute the tribalism here in the US. Otherwise I'd bet this nonsense would also be going on here.

[Arie_Kanarie]

Originally Posted by boxing_kangaroo

feyenoord hollies are nuts

"roooootttterrrrrdammm hoooooligans"

my mate said they chant this when they are steaming in....dutch police hate them and when other countries go to holland for matches the police often team up with the opposing team to beat them up

YouTube - Feyenoord-Ajax 2006 djPaul@Rob here you can hear that "Rotterdam Hooligans" @ 0:30 seconds... "Rotterdam Hooligans" is also a record from a famous Dutch DJ who supports Feyenoord.

About the police teaming up with other firms when they are playing Feyenoord is bullshit though...