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Old 05-05-2008, 11:59 AM   #21 (permalink)

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Oh ok, thanks YeahBee

Well hooligan in the US means like a prankster. If you call someone a hooligan it's like calling them a 'kid' but it's not a serious word. Like calling someone a 'dork'
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:04 PM   #22 (permalink)

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Football fans get way too attatched and involved to their club...I've watched the game for years and i've never understood football fans referring to themselves as "we"...For example "we should have signed (player)" "we should have won that game"...I mean, they throw it about as if they're apart of the team or backroom staff. Personally, whenever i talk about my team (Arsenal) i refer to them as "they"...E.g. "they were so close to the champions league final until Toure Fkt it up!!!"...
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:11 PM   #23 (permalink)

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The worst by far were the 1970/80s Millwall Firm TROOP F lead by the notorious Harry The Dog! The stuff that goes on nowadays in Eastern Europe is nothing compared to the heyday of the English Firms!
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:22 PM   #24 (permalink)

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Dick Advocaat (manager of a russian football club) said that he cant sign black players because of the nazi supporters.
there are loads of brazilians in the russian league actually.
like vagner love of cska moscow

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Old 05-05-2008, 12:37 PM   #25 (permalink)

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Football fans get way too attatched and involved to their club...I've watched the game for years and i've never understood football fans referring to themselves as "we"...For example "we should have signed (player)" "we should have won that game"...I mean, they throw it about as if they're apart of the team or backroom staff. Personally, whenever i talk about my team (Arsenal) i refer to them as "they"...E.g. "they were so close to the champions league final until Toure Fkt it up!!!"...
Well that's how I refer to the American sports teams that I follow, it feels weird if, for example I say (being a Dolphins fan) "we drafted Jake Long first in the draft" because well i'm not a real fan, i've never been to see them live etc

Whereas with my football team, I do feel like part of them, I go to watch them play, and say 'we should have signed...." etc. I'm attatched because I fucking love my team
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:51 PM   #26 (permalink)

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I seriously wish we had shit like that in the states. There is something seriously badass about having that kind of emotion invested into something.
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You disgust me to think that is something to be impressed by.
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Football fans get way too attatched and involved to their club...I've watched the game for years and i've never understood football fans referring to themselves as "we"...For example "we should have signed (player)" "we should have won that game"...I mean, they throw it about as if they're apart of the team or backroom staff. Personally, whenever i talk about my team (Arsenal) i refer to them as "they"...E.g. "they were so close to the champions league final until Toure Fkt it up!!!"...
I do that, but there seem to be a lotta people disliking it.

But have you thought about the fact that some people are actual members of said clubs?
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:20 PM   #28 (permalink)

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Its nowhere near as bad now in england than it was years ago due to higher ticket prices, therefore meaning more of the prawn sandwich brigade are attending matches (you know, the people who sit down in there sits, politely clap the play and refuse to be associated with their own team by talking as if they are a seperate entity from the club). The Netherlands is supposedly onpar with 1980's britain.
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Perhaps in europe it is unacceptabel to like more than 1 team at a time? I just like certain sports and I dont care who plays as long as its a good game.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:27 PM   #30 (permalink)

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Its nowhere near as bad now in england than it was years ago due to higher ticket prices, therefore meaning more of the prawn sandwich brigade are attending matches. The Netherlands is supposedly onpar with 1980's britain.
Errrrm NO

The big two in Holland are Feyernoord and Ajax but to be honest they have no reputation outside of the Netherlands. Its actually believed Tottenham Hotspur introduced Holland to football hooliganism in the 1970s by ripping apart Feyernoords stadium and giving the locals a slap.Before then they had no recorded events of any major trouble whatsoever.

I actually attended a match 3 years ago and whilst its pretty lively out there the police are pretty much on top of their game just like the english old bill.
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