[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by Titan416

Kobe averaged over 35 PPG, 5, 5, 2 and was ALL-NBA defense in 2006.

I would swap out 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game for ALL-NBA caliber defense and an 85 percent free throw percentage any day of the fucking week. Thats the most PPG scored in a quarter century.

Kobe was also only 1 assist and 1 rebound away from those numbers in 03 but he had, once again, ALL NBA caliber defense and an 85 percent free throw percentage.

Also, I am comparing Lebrons free throw shooting in the Wizards series to any of Shaqs years. Not just this year. It was horrible.

We aren't talking about his defense remember. We are talking about how when Kobe was in the same position as LeBron, he didn't put LeBron's numbers all around.

[Saku4me]

Everyone needs to let everything go. Kobe is the MVP and that's that. We have our own opinions but give the man his props. He's done more than enough to earn that this year. Sure I said from the get go that CP3 should win and I still believe that, but honestly, I can't say that Bryant doesn't have a legit argument for it.

[muaythaifolife]

Originally Posted by Saku4me

Everyone needs to let everything go. Kobe is the MVP and that's that. We have our own opinions but give the man his props. He's done more than enough to earn that this year. Sure I said from the get go that CP3 should win and I still believe that, but honestly, I can't say that Bryant doesn't have a legit argument for it.

Exactly! Just bugs me that he REFUSES to give any sort of credit to Kobe and thinks its some HUGE injustice that he got the award.

[AznTrojan]

i hate kobe.. but he deserves the mvp..

[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by muaythaifolife

Exactly! Just bugs me that he REFUSES to give any sort of credit to Kobe and thinks its some HUGE injustice that he got the award.

Again, stop being a douche bag and assuming. I've said hundreds of times now, literally, that Kobe was definitely up there for the running, especially with Chris Paul, even stating it was neck and neck at one point. My personal opinion is that Chris Paul deserved it for the points I outlined and somehow you take this as me hating.

[DangGaDa]

Originally Posted by fu-noob

We aren't talking about his defense remember. We are talking about how when Kobe was in the same position as LeBron, he didn't put LeBron's numbers all around.

When Kobe played Lebron's position, he was on a Championship team with Shaq, in his prime, at center. Lebron would not have average 30 points a game on that team either.

[fu-noob]

Originally Posted by DangGaDa

When Kobe played Lebron's position, he was on a Championship team with Shaq, in his prime, at center. Lebron would not have average 30 points a game on that team either.

I'm not basing my argument on assumptions, but rather fact. Kobe on terrible team, had a great year but didn't average the numbers LeBron did all-around. This isn't assuming anything like your post is, but rather going with what already happened.

Edit: Just re-read your post, you seem to have misunderstood what i said.

Someone pointed out that the only reason LeBron has such great numbers is because of the team he plays for where he is the go-to man (same person tried to also suggest he doesn't have a bad team but that's a different story). Anyway, when Kobe was in that position, playing with a young Walton, Smush Parker etc...he didn't average the all-around numbers that LeBron did (even look at his best year, 05-06), all around, the numbers weren't as good. Not going off assumptions here, the argument is complete off-base. And as I pointed out before, what part of LeBron's numbers would drop. Points is arguable, but the rest?