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05-08-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by boxing_kangaroo
their are some terrible players on that list......... i thought miguel cabrera would be their somewhere, the tigers pay their players shit loads.
this isnt good news for clubs like the indians as i didnt see sizemore,martinez,perralta,lee or carmona anywhere but many clubs would pay big $$$ for them. wheres utley,rollins,wright,reyes,hanley ramirez and so many more??
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all of those players are still in their arbitration years so they have not been out on the open market where you get money like this.
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05-08-2008, 01:17 PM
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True, the Mariners also got burned bad on A Beltran.....dude had one good year and signed huge deal to leave the Dodgers....
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The Mariners define under acheiving every year. Tell me how a team with a healthy Griffey, Rodriguez, Edgar Martinez, Jay Buhner, and Randy Johnson, and I believe a young Jamie Moyer, Doesnt win a world series. Not to mention Joey Cora was even good back then.
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05-08-2008, 06:51 PM
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True, the Mariners also got burned bad on A Beltran.....dude had one good year and signed huge deal to leave the Dodgers....
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It's Beltre. Beltran is the guy in the Mets. And yes, Beltre can be considered a king of the contract year and I suspect he was juicing at the time as well.
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05-08-2008, 06:57 PM
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How about Barry Zito $126 Million over 6 or 7 years and he's 0-7, ouch.
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Why is he doing so poorly now?
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05-08-2008, 07:01 PM
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That's some serious Fuck You money these guys are making.
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05-08-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by White Snake
It's Beltre. Beltran is the guy in the Mets. And yes, Beltre can be considered a king of the contract year and I suspect he was juicing at the time as well.
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Beltre was definately juicing. The guy is the king of the warning track in Seattle.
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05-08-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by boxing_kangaroo
their are some terrible players on that list......... i thought miguel cabrera would be their somewhere, the tigers pay their players shit loads.
this isnt good news for clubs like the indians as i didnt see sizemore,martinez,perralta,lee or carmona anywhere but many clubs would pay big $$$ for them. wheres utley,rollins,wright,reyes,hanley ramirez and so many more??
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Victor Martinez and Cliff Lee are signed until 2009 with options for 2010
Grady Sizemore is signed until 2011 with a 2012 option
Jhonny Peralta is signed until 2010 with a 2011 option
Fausto Carmona is signed until 2011 with options for 2012-14
Miguel Cabrera was just given an 8 yr/$150 million + deal
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05-08-2008, 08:04 PM
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Why is he doing so poorly now?
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I think his fastball is about 85 mph, and that don't cut it in the major league. Although he still has that nasty curve ball.
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05-08-2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Dougson
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He was never that good. He played in Oakland which is a top 5 pitchers park. He was also only really effective in his first 2 starts against teams. WHen a team was seeing him for a 3rd, 4th, or 5th time they know how his curve is and are able to tee-off on it. Now the fact that his fastball is only 80 mph basically means he is fucked.
The giants are retired for signing him btw. There were huge signs he was done in his last 2 years in Oakland. he had one very good season, then everyone knew his stuff and he gets lit up.
I am assuming he stopped juicing since he is only 30 and there is no other reason he has lost 8 mph on his fast ball.
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