What athletic marks deserve an * ?

warmma76 · 05-19-2008, 03:34 PM

First of all I'm a huge Barry Bonds hater. Really has nothing to do with him using steroids to break the HR record either. Mainly I can't stand the guy because he's a complete ass to the fans (even his own) and the media. Plus his constant denial that he ever had any "exta help" when he obviously did. But to be honest with you I think the guy get's some undeserved hatred sometimes. I'm old enough to remember Bonds playing since his rookie year. I remember his chokejobs in the playoffs with the Pirates. To me the guy is an amazing hitter, and would have put up HOF numbers even if he never used performance enhancers. The guy was hitting 30 HR's a year and driving in over 100 RBI's a year when he was 170 lbs. soaking wet. I don't think he would have ever broke the HR record if he never cheated, but he still would have hit over 600 homers. So I'm not 100% for the whole "*" thing. It's funny because now you hear other sports marks and championships that idiots say deserve an asterisk. I got in an argument with some douchebag coworker last year because he said that he feels the Spurs only deserve 2 of their NBA titles because 99 was a strike year, and last years because of the referee scandal. So he thinks those titles should have asterisks next to them. If you really want to go that route, here's some championships and amazing sports performances that could warrant an *.

Roger Clemens pitching marks after the 98 season due to steroid use

1995 New Jersey Devils Stanley Cup Championship due to strike season

Any pitcher that used a spit balls stats. Ex: Gaylord Perry

Any major league baseball players stats before 1947 when Jackie Robinson entered MLB

1981 Los Angeles Dodgers World Series victory, due to not even having the best record in their division. Due to it being a strike year, MLB split the season into halves. The Cincinatti Reds had the best record in all of baseball, but were screwed out of the playoffs because they didn't win either half.

Argentina winning the 1986 World Cup. That was the year Maradona scored the "Hand of God" goal against England.

Eric Dickerson's NFL record for rushing yards in a season with 2105 in 1984. OJ Simpson had 2004 in 1973, but had 2 less games to play. Note: NFL didn't start playing 16 games till 1978.

So add some more if you'd like.

White Snake · 05-19-2008, 06:39 PM

The Yankees 2003 AL Championship because Gold Thong Giambi hit a couple of steroid induced HRs in Game 7.

hysteria · 05-20-2008, 01:04 AM

We don't have asterixes in football (soccer), so the maradona one is fine. Football has the same rules from sunday leagues up to the World Cup, so if the referee misses something, it doesn't matter.

Plus it was against England. Awesome goal!

ForeverZero · 05-20-2008, 01:10 AM

Bonds (roids)
Patriots (cheating)
and anyone who holds or breaks the rushing tittle in the NFL . Noting that Barry Sanders retired early and would have smashed any rushing records . All this done with a horrible team with no intention of bettering itself...

panchosancho · 05-20-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverZero

Bonds (roids)
Patriots (cheating)
and anyone who holds or breaks the rushing tittle in the NFL . Noting that Barry Sanders retired early and would have smashed any rushing records . All this done with a horrible team with no intention of bettering itself...

What about Clemens, Petitte, Gagne and the 86 other players named in the mitchell report?
And whether or not Barry Sanders kept playing wouldnt of matterd one damn bit if Bo Jackson never got hurt.

warmma76 · 05-20-2008, 02:08 PM

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What about Clemens, Petitte, Gagne and the 86 other players named in the mitchell report?
And whether or not Barry Sanders kept playing wouldnt of matterd one damn bit if Bo Jackson never got hurt.

Even though I hate the Raiders, I did love Bo Jackson. However I don't think he would have broke the rushing record. Al Davis had the Raiders running him to death, and I think it would have caught up to him eventually. Probably would have got 12,000 career yards though.

KoscheckBaby · 05-20-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by White Snake

The Yankees 2003 AL Championship because Gold Thong Giambi hit a couple of steroid induced HRs in Game 7.

Any Boston championship, because their fans are pieces of shit that don't deserve any joy.

warmma76 · 05-20-2008, 02:13 PM

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Any Boston championship, because their fans are pieces of shit that don't deserve any joy.

Ya know, I would probably hate the Red Sox more than you guys if you didn't have that *** Hank Steinbrenner trying to be the Dana White of baseball.

KoscheckBaby · 05-20-2008, 02:15 PM

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Ya know, I would probably hate the Red Sox more than you guys if you didn't have that *** Hank Steinbrenner trying to be the Dana White of baseball.

Yeah, he's a dick. He's gonna be bad for the Yankees though, so he'll even it out. George suspension from baseball is what lead to the championships, not his meddling. And now Hank is a stupider version.

KoscheckBaby · 05-20-2008, 02:17 PM

I gotta add my Shaq hate to this thread. He deserves no recognition as an all-time great. I stopped watching basketball because of this guy. He was an offensive tackle that played basketball and bullied on people in the paint en route to 2 foot shots. Fuck him.