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Old 08-20-2008, 09:44 AM   #11 (permalink)

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I read about this

after about the 70 meter mark(i think its 70, i can be wrong), athletes are at top speed,

they can only get slower, and they do, (again its a slow deceleration)

thats why what ben johnson did is so incredible

you would expect the 200 meter time to be lower then the 100 meter time doubled
No you wouldn't. Not only do you have to accelerate from 0 twice, you also have to react to the start gun twice. That's why 200M time has always been faster than double of 100M time.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:46 AM   #12 (permalink)

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No you wouldn't. Not only do you have to accelerate from 0 twice, you also have to react to the start gun twice. That's why 200M time has always been faster than double of 100M time.
He said lower, not slower...
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I was there in 1996. That 200m was ridiculous. Johnson chopped .34 off his own WR and 19.6 is still enough to earn a gold medal.

If Bolt is going to break it, he won't have the opportunity to showboat. He'll need to bust his ass.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Here's Michael Johnson's opinion...


Many people have suggested I should prepare to part with my world record of 19.32sec when the final takes place at 3.20 (BST) this afternoon.

I have believed for some time now that Bolt is capable of breaking that record, but I don't think he will do it here.

What makes Bolt so incredible is his massive stride and his ability to sprint efficiently with such long limbs. That rare formula yields incredible results, just like the one we witnessed on Saturday when he covered the 100m in a world record of 9.69sec with less than 100 per cent effort.

But the 200m race is different in that it requires not just speed but also speed endurance. Additionally, while the 100m is a simple straight-ahead sprint requiring one technique throughout the race, the 200m is broken down into three different zones, each requiring something different.

The first part of the race is the curve. A sprinter has to master the running of the bend and get comfortable with it to run the 200m really fast.

The next part of the race is the transition from the curve on to the straight. This transition is very important because it is at this point where one technique is traded for another and the physical movements of an athlete's upper body and lower body must change gradually but quickly and in sync with the movement off the curve and on to the straight.

It sounds complicated but it's not really because a lot of it happens naturally as you're moving around the bend. But when you're trying to run 19.3 or better, it becomes extremely important.

I was pretty good at running the bend in spite of the fact that my inside leg is slightly longer than my outside leg. Imagine the possibilities if I had been lucky enough to be born with the opposite situation.

Bolt doesn't have a natural ability to run the curve as well as I think is required to clock 19.32 at this point. And I doubt if the emphasis in his training has been on speed endurance, since it was clear on Saturday that his focus has been on improving his 100m technique.

So, for now at least, the record is safe. But only for now.

As for the competition I think the gold will go to Bolt easily. Americans Walter Dix, the bronze medallist in the 100m, Shawn Crawford, the defending 200m Olympic champion, and Wallace Spearmon, should all figure.

But the only way any one of them will steal the gold is if Bolt makes major mistakes and doesn't run to his potential. He may not smash the record, but I back him to run even faster than the 19.67 he ran this year in a grand prix in Athens.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:03 AM   #15 (permalink)

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it starts in 10 min...i predict 19.55
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Bolt's standing 100m is the same as Johnsons second 100m split which is from a flying start. says everything. if bolt has the endurance, he has every chance to beat 19,32
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Bolt's standing 100m is the same as Johnsons second 100m split which is from a flying start. says everything. if bolt has the endurance, he has every chance to beat 19,32
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #18 (permalink)

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You are a fucking idiot. After the 100th meter he's already at full speed so obviously the last 100 meters are faster than a regular 100 mts race in which the sprinter starts from zero speed..
It's not that people don't realize how impressive the record is. It's retards like you that don't understand the difference between the events.


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Obviously the second 100 is faster. But name me one other person who has managed to run a 200 averaging less per 100M than Bolt ran the 100. I was giving his speed per 100 to put it in perspective. Notice how I mentioned the spilts for his first and second halves of the race. I thought it would be obvious I knew why he managed a 9.2 in the second. I didn't mention how that 9.2 was faster than anyone has ran the 100 from a dead start.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:23 AM   #19 (permalink)
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holy fuck 19.30 new world record it isn't even fair when he actually tries. there was a fucking buslength between him and 2nd place.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:23 AM   #20 (permalink)
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