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This is from another guy who has been going back and forth with him. Here is just one of the many convos. Start at the bottom.
I'm not surprised Eddie didn't contact you. He prolly won't. I personaly don't know eddie, he seems like a cool enough guy but istill doubt he will even entertain your foolish msg to him.
link me to this person who is gonna hook you up.
Then just sit by the phone.
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From: Lee Reed
Date: Jul 16, 2007 4:13 AM
the email i got wasnt eddie barvo, but it was a fighter and said he has contacts.
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Shooto you dumb shit. Was started in 1985 thats 8 years prior to UFC. I'm not talkin abotu a cage. Yes UFC was the first to use a cage but Shooto was the first to have MMA (Thats Mixed Martial Arts) as a sport. UFC isn't a sport its an organization, a single promotion. The sport is known as MMA.
Also you're reference is to UFC. That shit doesn't go down anymore there killer. Now its a straight up sport with sanctioning bodies and athletes. As much as its a fight its a sport.
We're talkin Olympic wrestlers and boxers, world class kick boxers and Muay Thai practitioners. Elite world renound grapplers and Jiu-Jitsu players. This is what the sport has evolved into. Tank Abbot isn't winning anymore for a reason. The sport has been taken over by athletes and elite one's at that.
More so than anything the UFC is a business. You have no fans, no background that makes your marketable and obviously you're not that bright or you would understand this. The UFC is not an underground fighting organization. Its not that crazy group from the Van Dam movie "lionheart". This is big business and you son do not fit into the making tons of money equasion. That is why you will not start or likely ever be in the UFC.
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From: Lee Reed
Date: Jul 16, 2007 4:29 AM
lol, i never heard of shoot or pancaese.
Ur saying the UFC ripped off those promotions ? ? You are a dumb ass. I rented UFC 1 and nothing about it was copied off anything, it was totally new.
And now we have all these wannabe organizations with cages. UFC was the first organization on the planet no matter how u look at it.
And what makes you think you need training to win? It's a fight, not a sport dude. There are so many things that could happen. Its all about guys fighting each other. This whole "pecking order" bull ship your spewing is all a load of shit. Men are born with instincts to fight. Fighting has gone back to the cavemen days. None of them were "trained" and "worked their way up"..Thats bull shit. Some guys are built for fighting and are naturally good at it. Its like saying you have to work your way to be a male porn star. No u dont, u just got to have sex. It's a natural instinct. Men are born to fight. Humans arent robots big guy. There isnt a program we have to download to win a fight, its instinct and natural ablility.
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From: Ben
Date: Jul 16, 2007 1:19 AM
Craft = job/sport.
ring experience is general terminology for getting some fights.
I hate to break this to you kid, but when you talk about copy cat orgs you might as well know that there is no such thing. If there were well UFC would just be a copy cat of Shooto and Pancrase which were around years prior.
Its all 1 sport with only minor changes in rules from one org to the next.
You don't just go big time. You EARN big time. Otherwise it wouldn't be the BIG TIME if ever jack off from the net could get in it now would it?
p.s. as for the guy from the UFC that contacted you, thats a buddy of mine fucking with you.
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From: Lee Reed
Date: Jul 16, 2007 4:12 AM
what does craft mean ? ? ?
the point im trying to make is i dont want ring expierence, i want octagon expierence. i dont want to fight in copy cat organizations such as AFC. i want to go big time because i know i am big time.
i got an email today saying that the UFC will contact me soon, so basically everything you told me was complete bull shit.
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