YAY Weapons forum: so, who carries knives? - Page 2

**King Kabuki** · 03-09-2006, 04:37 PM

lol Spray and pray. Shit now we're gonna have another jargon-term around here like Lay n' pray, and clinch n' pray, already the weapons forum has one.

IndyCovaHart · 03-09-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kabuki

That's kind of the purpose smart-guy.

Considering the title of this subforum placed under the umbrella of "Standup Technique", I actually expected it to be about stick fighting, katanas, sais, etc.

But hey, if that's the purpose...

CowboyPete · 03-09-2006, 05:09 PM

lol Spray and Pray works great in counterstrike. Never seems to work on the A-team.

I myself have never fired a gun but I can tell you from watching my best friend's policeman father teaching him how to fire a pistol that it's not easy at all. He was firing at a bottle on the ground about 15 yards away. After half a clip, he put a ton of divots in the grass and broke the cinder block and the bottle was unharmed. His father, a policeman and former army grunt set up the bottle on another cinder block and went back 15 yards again. He quickdrawed his pistol from the hip and fired three shots while bringing the gun up to a straight arm. One shot hit about 2 yards in front of the block, the second hit the bottle and the third hit the ground about 5 yards behind the block...

No skill? pffft.

**King Kabuki** · 03-09-2006, 05:27 PM

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Considering the title of this subforum placed under the umbrella of "Standup Technique", I actually expected it to be about stick fighting, katanas, sais, etc.

But hey, if that's the purpose...

Pretty much any weapons discussion is welcome. But if you're more interested in stick-fighting, katanas, sais, and the like, then by all means start threads about them as opposed to criticising threads that already exist.

BTW knife-fighting has as rich a history as anything else. It's present in some form in almost all cultures. From the balisong to the wakizashi or kodachi, to the throwing knives Native Americans are accustomed to. In Kali knife-fighting is one of the premiere aspects of the Art.

PT447 · 03-09-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kabuki

That's kind of the purpose smart-guy.

Anywho, I carry whatever is the Air Force regulation knife. I forget what the shit they're called.

But PT, I have to disagree with you on something. It takes a great deal of skill to accurately and purposefully use a fire-arm. I've seen a lot of people handle one for the first time and end up burning the shit out of their hands or dislocating joints because of lack of skill. Then of course there's the "accidental killing" ratio. Where you have people who meant to fire a warning shot, or hit someone in the leg, and they ended up blowing their brains out. It takes a lot of skill and patience to hit a moving target, with a bullet that will be moving, in a split-second, where you meant to hit it.

Anyone who has ever done any sharp-shooting will tell you.

i'm not talking about being a sniper or something. what i'm saying is that the advent of the firearm totally demolished all concepts of honorable compat. it no longer pitted skill vs. skill but the prowess of the generals in strategically placing cannons and snipers...

oviously guns didn't cause all this alone, but i just feel that knives are more personal. if i shoot you before you shoot me, what did i prove? but if we fought in knife-armed combat, or armed with swords, then usually the more skillfull warrior deserved to win.

i know i'm overgeneralizing, but you get my point. i also feel that knives, and especially swords, can be great works of art and craftsmanship. i know guns can too, but there is something just beautiful about a masterfully crafted kitana, or a beatifully sculpted hilt or grip of a knife...

anyway, to each their own... everyone has their preferences!!!

man, i think this new forums is gunna be cool!!!

PT447 · 03-09-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyCovaHart

Considering the title of this subforum placed under the umbrella of "Standup Technique", I actually expected it to be about stick fighting, katanas, sais, etc.

But hey, if that's the purpose...

knife combat is most certainly part of stand-up fighting technique. most knife fights aren't in the guard!

**King Kabuki** · 03-09-2006, 05:59 PM

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knife combat is most certainly part of stand-up fighting technique. most knife fights aren't in the guard!

lol When I brought up the idea in-detail for this forum Administration asked me where I wanted it. I said "Stand-up technique, since I can't think of any grappling weapons that are specifically used on the ground." One of the Administrators replies "How about a rake?"

What's hilarious is I couldn't think of anything to debunk the credibility of a rake being a grappling weapon to be used on the ground. In the most literal senses.

Anyhow, I respect your opinion. I just think that over-use and irresponsibility of guns has discredited their inherent need for skill. It seems a lot of morons can indeed find them easily used to over-compensate for lack of skill, making it a bit of a catch-22.

Maybe some comedian was right in saying they should recall all the guns available to the general public and instead everyone gets handed out muskets. THEN it'd be a game of skill.

Tone C · 03-09-2006, 06:02 PM

Camillus Becker cu7 (?) and a smaller stilletto style made by Walther or someone similar.Don't carry although I used to when younger..use them to teach knife defence and knife use/handling skills.If you can use/utilise a knife its easier to defend against one too.Always good fun when get out knife pells or start cutting up stuff....

PT447 · 03-09-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kabuki

lol When I brought up the idea in-detail for this forum Administration asked me where I wanted it. I said "Stand-up technique, since I can't think of any grappling weapons that are specifically used on the ground." One of the Administrators replies "How about a rake?"

What's hilarious is I couldn't think of anything to debunk the credibility of a rake being a grappling weapon to be used on the ground. In the most literal senses.

Anyhow, I respect your opinion. I just think that over-use and irresponsibility of guns has discredited their inherent need for skill. It seems a lot of morons can indeed find them easily used to over-compensate for lack of skill, making it a bit of a catch-22.

Maybe some comedian was right in saying they should recall all the guns available to the general public and instead everyone gets handed out muskets. THEN it'd be a game of skill.

oh i think that competetive shooting and using rifle's is essentially a skillfull persuit... but honestly, the most perceived gun is the handgun... and that rerquires zero skill to take anyone out. i equate handguns with knives... since they are the only things you can equate of the two forms of weapons... essentially, handguns being closest to close-combat weapons, like knives and swords. but i also standbye my "ware" position as it takes the fight away from the warrior and into the hands of the generals! but hey, all's fair in love and war, eh?

like that little pun didn't'cha?

**King Kabuki** · 03-09-2006, 06:22 PM

Yeah it was tight-work.

So do you have formal education of knivery? Or is it just a hobby-style passion.

What's your favorite style of knife-fighting? For me Kali seems to have the skinny on some of the best tactics. I once met a Mexican dude in California who had one arm all drawn-up with his hand gnarled like if he was clawing. Asked him what happened and he said he got into a knife-fight with a Filipino dude who knew Kali, and he got cut along the inside of his upper-most arm right near the armpit. Said it severed a bunch of nerves and he lost use of the arm completely.

Funny part:

He still knife fights.