[Dog Soldier]

Originally Posted by CDCdirector

Not sure if this is what OP meant but... the way I interpreted the quote was to mean that you shouldn't rely on your gun to keep you absolutely safe. You aren't going to be able to outshoot everyone, sometimes the gun won't be there for whatever damn reason, so be prepared to use other means. Every reasonable soldier can tell you that retreat is always an option, especially when you lose nothing by giving ground. Don't be an idiot and walk into bad situations because you have a gun. Most of these things are common sense but you never know with people...

The OP made reference to "rabid gun-nuts" and recommended running.

The fact is that if you've prepared yourself to use a firearm then you'd damned well mentally prepared to do anything necessary including running.

[Infernal Ire]

Originally Posted by Sonny

What if you run away and the bullet catches up to you?

Fucking classic

[Tre5sev]

Only a fool thinks he can outrun a bullet...

[fearfactory]

Originally Posted by Chris B

Research has shown that someone can close 21 feet with a knife and stab before you can unholster a firearm and fire a shot.

source?

[jwalk2515]

Originally Posted by fearfactory

source?

Every police officer I have ever known backs the 21ft rule. I have practiced it with an officer. From within 21ft I can successfully get to the officer before he clears leather 9 out of 10 times. the other time he cleared holster but I was stabbing a 2nd time before he was close to pointing towards me.

[Gregster]

Originally Posted by Sugar J

Just remember that. Seems as though there are some rabid gun-nuts on this forum.

Running is the most effective technique.

Only a fool limits his options.

Avoiding conflict that can escalate to a situation resulting in serious injury or death is wise-- it's always better to avoid bad neighborhoods, blind corners, dark alleys, and poorly-lit ATMs in the middle of nowhere than place reckless confidence in a weapon (or your fighting skill) and risk getting killed or injured. Ditto risking the expense and hassle of defending yourself in court which could result in a conviction that dogs you later in life or land you in jail and screw up your life for good because you maimed or killed some lowlife who wasn't worth the steam that wafts off your shit on a cold day stemming from a confrontation you could have avoided but instead chose to play through making a principled (but utterly pointless) stand.

That said: you think every person raped, maimed, or killed by some predatory piece of shit got raped, maimed, or killed because they had all the chances in the world to run but instead decided to stand still and become a victim? People who get by in the world preying on others learn and refine their craft, and they are stacking the odds (such as the odds of you not getting away) in their favor. When they have divested you of all other options...well, I prefer to have the option of last resort at my disposal.

[JRT6]

Originally Posted by Sonny

What if you run away and the bullet catches up to you?

Die tired?

[JRT6]

Actually there is something to be said about running because the average BG hit rate is 10% and only 10% of those hits result in a fatality. That being said running isn't the best option every time and i personally favor running to cover then shooting back.

[Gregster]

Originally Posted by JRT6

Actually there is something to be said about running because the average BG hit rate is 10% and only 10% of those hits result in a fatality.

This statistic is actually rather misleading.

When accounted for separately, the reality is that that Maurice and Robin have markedly higher hit rates. Barry, on the other hand, couldn't hit the broadside of a disco at 10 paces; I'd wager this has something to do with his nut-hugging, super-tight silver lamé pants cutting off much of the blood supply to his brain, causing his vision to blur and aim unsteady.

Hence, factoring in *his* hit rates has roughly the same effect on their cumulative BG average as tying a cinder block to it and chucking it off a bridge.