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Old 04-04-2008, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)

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I bought a new rifle: AIA M10 (EnfieldNo4MKIV)



Brand new reproduction of the good old Lee-Enfield Chambered in the modern 7.62X51.
That is not me in the pic btw
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Shot my first deer with a .303. It was a jungle carbine though. Kills from one end cripples on the other. How is the recoil on the new one?
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:44 AM   #3 (permalink)

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I only got it a few days ago so I haven't been able to fire it yet.
Im guess it will be the same as other bolt action rifles that use 7.62x51 or .308?
Also I forgot to mention that it comes with a chrome lined barrel and that the company that produces this rifle offers different versions like a sporter, Match target, and Sniper T
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:54 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Shot my first deer with a .303. It was a jungle carbine though. Kills from one end cripples on the other. How is the recoil on the new one?
I can't imagine the shorter length can't help. I have a full-sized No 4 Mk II Lee-Enfield, and even with the extra weight that bad-boy has a pretty stout kick. The frickin' Earths' gravitational pull must have been different 70-90 or so years ago when then British Tommies were able to crank out all 10 rounds (with some degree of accuracy, I'm told) in 60 seconds while performing the infamous "Mad Minute."
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:27 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Ok I shot the rifle this weekend and it has a substantial kick. But it was a lot of fun. I only got to fire of about 50 rounds and now my shoulder is a bit sore. the accuracy was decent but Im sure that it is a lot more accurate than I can fire it due to the fact that its the first time I have fired a rifle and my trigger pull is quite horrible. Using only iron sights I was able to place tight groups about 1-3 inches at 100 yard but they were all to the right of the target, again due to my noobish trigger pulls. The cycling of the bolt was very fast, which is the usual characteristic of an enfield. I was able to cycle and fire off a round in 1/2 a second. All in all it is a very fun rifle.
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Ok I shot the rifle this weekend and it has a substantial kick. But it was a lot of fun. I only got to fire of about 50 rounds and now my shoulder is a bit sore. the accuracy was decent but Im sure that it is a lot more accurate than I can fire it due to the fact that its the first time I have fired a rifle and my trigger pull is quite horrible. Using only iron sights I was able to place tight groups about 1-3 inches at 100 yard but they were all to the right of the target, again due to my noobish trigger pulls. The cycling of the bolt was very fast, which is the usual characteristic of an enfield. I was able to cycle and fire off a round in 1/2 a second. All in all it is a very fun rifle.
The good news-- at least in my experience-- is that if your groups are consistent, then what this probably means is that you are similarly consistent in making whatever mistakes you're making. Thus, once you isolate the error and correct it, you're good to go.

Trigger pull may be a factor, as you mentioned. Novice shooters tend to wrap a little too much finger around the trigger, which can cause a shot to go wide in the direction of the hand pulling it...though I find this a lot more in pistol shooting than rifles, and I'd not expect it to factor much at 100. Just remember:

1) SQUEEZE, not "pull."
2) Just use your fingertip, the bare minimum you need to contact the trigger and move it
3) DO NOT ANTICIPATE THE TRIGGER BREAK, which causes flinching, especially with a bigger bore weapon like yours. When that rifle fires, it should be a surprise. You can work on this whenever you want; just snap in, pick a point somewhere, and practice keeping the front sight steady on the target and you pull the trigger. I recommend spending $3-$4 on a dummy .308 "snap cap" which you can load in the chamber when practicing to save wear and tear on the pin while dry-firing.

The pic you posted suggests someone has shown you the proper basics of snapping-in for firing, and using the sling for support. That helps.

Your problem may also be sight alignment-- that is, how you're lining up the front and rear sight.

Then again, there is certainly no law in the universe that says you can't adjust windage to correct an otherwise natural flaw in how you line up; not everyone lines up on the same weapon in the same way. If all you're doing is shooting to the right, then fire a htree-shot group, apply a couple clicks of left windage (if your sights allow it, that is; mine has a drift adjustment on the front blade sight), and fire three more. That should move you closer to the "X" ring. Once you've applied your own "dope" (as such adjustments are often called) to the weapon, try moving back to 200 or 300 yards if you can. If you find that when doing this-- after making the necessary elevation adjustments, of course-- you're still hitting center mass, your problems are over.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:23 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Yeah this rifle had a previous owner and to my knowledge has been barely shot. Last time I went to the range I was only there for 30 min so I was unable to notice or change the windage of the front sight if there was in fact any adjustments at all. And yes I was guilty of flinching before pulling the trigger to. The 7.62x51 has a condiserable kick and yea it scares me a little bit. LoL. The action of the bolt amazes me btw. It is smooooooth like butter. Im hoping to be able to purchase a heavy barrel from the original manufacturers and have a gunsmith screw it in for me.
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