[Rinksterk]

From what I heard from other people and read, weapons like submachine guns, shotguns, and pistols are more suitable for home defense and close quarters combat. Assualt rifles have an issue with over penetration.

Why is this a problem? Are people afraid of destroying the building or hurting innocent people who may be in the building? Or do bullets with too much penetration lack stopping power at close range? It seems like most SWAT teams use submachine guns like MP5s rather than M4s.

BTW, is it legal to buy a submachine gun? I know a few people with shotguns, hunting rifles, and pistols, but I don't know anybody with submachine guns. Are they illegal because they're automatic?

[Foxx_MMA]

Originally Posted by Rinksterk

From what I heard from other people and read, weapons like submachine guns, shotguns, and pistols are more suitable for home defense and close quarters combat. Assualt rifles have an issue with over penetration.

Why is this a problem? Are people afraid of destroying the building or hurting innocent people who may be in the building? Or do bullets with too much penetration lack stopping power at close range? It seems like most SWAT teams use submachine guns like MP5s rather than M4s.

BTW, is it legal to buy a submachine gun? I know a few people with shotguns, hunting rifles, and pistols, but I don't know anybody with submachine guns. Are they illegal because they're automatic?

The main issue of overpenatration isnt about your target, it is those around you. Neighbors or hitting family members in other rooms ect, that said there is a relationship between high penetrating rounds and lack of stopping power. Full ****l jacket rounds wont cause large wounds like hollow points. Police forces are not allowed to use hollow point bullets and hollow points are also banned in the Geneva convention too i believe. But for self defense in a home there is nothing better. A hollow point has less chance of over penetrating and inflicts larger sized wounds. Also the issue of automatic weaponry is largely an issue of where you live and the laws in your state and city. There are plenty of private citizens though that own automatic weapons a quick search on youtube will find hundreds. hope this helps

[Flexwave2003]

In most cases, you're going to be in a close quarters scenario for home defense. A rifle is not an option I would take, for a variety of reasons. You will want a riot type shot gun or a handgun.

.02 cents

[Lucky Rutledge]

12 gauge and buckshot. you cant miss and it wont go through the walls with enough energy to hurt someone on the other side fatally.

[Barut]

Originally Posted by Foxx_MMA

The main issue of overpenatration isnt about your target, it is those around you. Neighbors or hitting family members in other rooms ect, that said there is a relationship between high penetrating rounds and lack of stopping power. Full ****l jacket rounds wont cause large wounds like hollow points. Police forces are not allowed to use hollow point bullets and hollow points are also banned in the Geneva convention too i believe. But for self defense in a home there is nothing better. A hollow point has less chance of over penetrating and inflicts larger sized wounds. Also the issue of automatic weaponry is largely an issue of where you live and the laws in your state and city. There are plenty of private citizens though that own automatic weapons a quick search on youtube will find hundreds. hope this helps

The geneva convention does not apply to police. Law Enforcement uses expanding rounds.

[Barut]

Originally Posted by Lucky Rutledge

12 gauge and buckshot. you cant miss and it wont go through the walls with enough energy to hurt someone on the other side fatally.

If you're talking about a standard drywall walls, then you're wrong.

[Chesten_Hesten]

See this stuff here:

MidwayUSA - Winchester USA Ammunition 223 Remington 45 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 40

Put that in a AR15, be it a Carbine or whathave you and it will do wonders on any mooshy based target without going out of the house. You'll have less overpenetration than with a standard 9mm.

It is basically a better but poormans frangible round.

Bird to 4 shot works great in Shotguns too, cause within the distance of most houses it is almost a single projectile anyways...

You don't need a Submachine gun.

[Foxx_MMA]

Originally Posted by Barut

The geneva convention does not apply to police. Law Enforcement uses expanding rounds.

Humm you are right i just checked some police have started using hollow points haha NY switched like 8 years ago guess i am slightly behind the times

[Ryo]

There is not a Law Enforcement agency in the US that doesn't use hollow point bullets. They'd be pretty retarded not to. Full ****l Jacket is a non expanding bullet. Without expansion, you've got a very small wound cavity.

A shotgun is the single most devestating close quarters weapon in existence. At 10 to 15 feet, it will literally blow a hole the size of your fist in any two legged thing that decides to come through your door. Number 4 shot is IMO the perfect round for home defence. Good size pellots and plenty of them!

[D-Train]

Yeah, using an AR15 or AK for home defense is a bit overkill (no pun intended). Whatever caliber you choose, opt for hollow points. I don't practice with hollow points, but I keep a magazine loaded with hollow points just in case.