[Soulfly]

Originally Posted by Trigaman

Me personally, I dont like anything smaller than a 9 mil. Anything less reduces stoping power. My suggestion to you is go to a near by shooting range. Most shooting ranges allow you to rent guns for shooting. That way you can determine whether you like the feel of a 9 mil or a 44 mag (revolver) without actually having to buy them.

Actually, 9mm have really shitty stopping power. The bullets slide through flesh instead of slapping into it and transmitting the energy. Thats why the FBI was looking for a round to replace it, ala 10mm. If you want knockdown power, get a .40 or a .45. Thing is, .40 ammo is more rare, therefore expensive. .45's are really good, but they have a pretty decent kick. Best .45 around is the world fameous Colt 1911. Used by the american military through 2 world wars.

Look up wound ballistics and studies - you'll find all the information there.

Neither the .40 or the .45 is a good round for your first pistol. And neither have many models out as revolvers. *shrug* it's about preference.

Best advice is go to a shooting range and shoot a revolver, and a semi automatic. Then shoot different rounds through both. See what feels right. Handguns are like shoes - they have to fit YOU.

[Rbagu3]

Originally Posted by Soulfly

Actually, 9mm have really shitty stopping power. The bullets slide through flesh instead of slapping into it and transmitting the energy. Thats why the FBI was looking for a round to replace it, ala 10mm. If you want knockdown power, get a .40 or a .45. Thing is, .40 ammo is more rare, therefore expensive. .45's are really good, but they have a pretty decent kick. Best .45 around is the world fameous Colt 1911. Used by the american military through 2 world wars.

Look up wound ballistics and studies - you'll find all the information there.

Neither the .40 or the .45 is a good round for your first pistol. And neither have many models out as revolvers. *shrug* it's about preference.

Best advice is go to a shooting range and shoot a revolver, and a semi automatic. Then shoot different rounds through both. See what feels right. Handguns are like shoes - they have to fit YOU.

cool, again i haven't got an answer on this, sorry that i keep asking, what about a used gun? should i even consider those? and i will go to a range, but i'm afraid they are going to be like car dealers, so i want to know somenthning about it, before i go in.

[Rbagu3]

what about this one??

http://www.xdpistols.com/item/58024_...__40_SW_5.aspx

[Soulfly]

Originally Posted by Rbagu3

cool, again i haven't got an answer on this, sorry that i keep asking, what about a used gun? should i even consider those? and i will go to a range, but i'm afraid they are going to be like car dealers, so i want to know somenthning about it, before i go in.

Don't get gun ranges confused with Gun stores. Gun ranges don't sell guns - they rent them to people to use at their range. They won't push a gun on you, at all. Most gun owners are very helpful and will give you a hand on choosing one. Again, don't feel like you will be pressured if you go to a range.



Used guns are great if they're not broken - something that a gunsmith would be able to help you with. But gunsmiths can be like car salesmen, so I'd stay away from used guns.

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

I was going to answer some questions about various guns but after reading the above post, people are giving you good advice.

By the way in Cali it is a 10 day waiting period for a gun unless you are an LEO and have a letter from your chief.

Good luck

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

Hey Soulfly that is interesting quote on the bottom of your post. If you do not mind would you tell me where that comes from. Thanks

[Rbagu3]

Originally Posted by Soulfly

Don't get gun ranges confused with Gun stores. Gun ranges don't sell guns - they rent them to people to use at their range. They won't push a gun on you, at all. Most gun owners are very helpful and will give you a hand on choosing one. Again, don't feel like you will be pressured if you go to a range.



Used guns are great if they're not broken - something that a gunsmith would be able to help you with. But gunsmiths can be like car salesmen, so I'd stay away from used guns.

cool man thanks, i thought they were together, like at the gun range, you rent the guns, then they try to sell them to you, are there any brands, any of you suggest staying away from? like guns that jam alot, are always overpriced, or just suck??

[Soulfly]

Originally Posted by Jiu-Jitsu Cop

Hey Soulfly that is interesting quote on the bottom of your post. If you do not mind would you tell me where that comes from. Thanks

IIRC it was from "Devils Advocate" when Al Pacino tries to get Keanu Reeves to have sex with his sister and give birth to the antichrist. As a whole the movie wasn't that good, but it had some good parts.

[Trigaman]

Originally Posted by Soulfly

Actually, 9mm have really shitty stopping power. The bullets slide through flesh instead of slapping into it and transmitting the energy. Thats why the FBI was looking for a round to replace it, ala 10mm. If you want knockdown power, get a .40 or a .45. Thing is, .40 ammo is more rare, therefore expensive. .45's are really good, but they have a pretty decent kick. Best .45 around is the world fameous Colt 1911. Used by the american military through 2 world wars.

Look up wound ballistics and studies - you'll find all the information there.

Neither the .40 or the .45 is a good round for your first pistol. And neither have many models out as revolvers. *shrug* it's about preference.

Best advice is go to a shooting range and shoot a revolver, and a semi automatic. Then shoot different rounds through both. See what feels right. Handguns are like shoes - they have to fit YOU.

I agree 9 mils stopping power isn't that great, but I dont want to suggest a higher caliber for a beginer.

[Trigaman]

Stay away from Lorcin, high point, any 380.
You basicly get what you pay for.