[The_Bear]

Originally Posted by mschatz

*Thinks back to the last time i saw a low kick used in a street fight*

Hmm...ill get back to you

Well um i did lol lol. It was back in hs and this kid and i were just fuckin around and then he started getting more roudy and hitting me. So I just front kick him in the shin and he didnt like that at all and fell to the ground. True story. but i get what your saying

[m-tech]

Try a suit of plate mail?

[gnus411]

Interesting question...why are firearms legal in most/all states, but brass knuckles aren't? I believe the reason is that firearms can be used for "sport" ie- hunting foul, elk, random buttocks, etc....Whereas brass knuckles have no sportive objective, unless you're prone to whooping some foul's ass for a nice chicken dinner. Even then...the aspca would be on your ass for cruel and unusua (except you great one strike knockout artists of course).

In terms of the constitution, the state overrides the federal....in most cases it's due to federal pressure of monitary witholdings that states concede to federal will, but the state does have the right to dictate the laws within it's own boundaries. As it relates to weapons though...the federal govmt doesn't really care , as long as it's not a gun. Thus the states regulate "numchucks" and sai's, and everything else.

2 cents.

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

I will try to clear up the gun verses other weapons debate. In our constitution it says we have the right to bear arms and form a militia. This is in theory to keep the government in control (OK we all can laugh about the gov. being kept in control). The right it bear arms (Guns) is our constitutional right. also guns can be used for hunting. With that said many guns are made just for killing (No one hunts wiith a M60).

Now many weapons (Not guns) are made strictly to hurt people. Brass knuckles serve no other purpose then to hurt a person with a punch. I know in martial arts history many weapons were used by farmers but that is not the case that we are talking about here.

Remember even though a gun (which can kill easier then brass knuckles) is legal to own, in many states it is illegal to carry, and I believe in all states it is illegal to carry concealed (Unless you have a CCW).

I personally believe in intelligent gun control. People should not be able to carry grenade launchers and M60's. But people should have the right to be able to protect their property and lives. I speak most from California law and if you have any questinos about the specifics of what weapons are allowed look up 12020 CPC.

The NRA hs alot of money and fights to allow people the right to carry guns. As witih most all weapons they are not illegal to have in your house, but illegal to carry in public. One of the biggest problems is that manufacturers find a way around the law. If you make Brass knuckles illegal then someone make them out of a different ****l and sells them. That is why the penal code calls them ****l knuckles (Yes that means wooden ones should be legal). When it comes to weapons common sense should prevail, but then again anyone who has worked with the public will know that there is no common sense out there.

I hope this helps.

[gnus411]

CCW's are as simple to come by a FOID cards in Washington State.

Just stating as fact...perhaps others have more insight.

Q: What about those "ninja keychains" that had the 2 barbs sticking out from the main grafted shaft piece? A punch with those things would be much more lethal than some brass knucks......but just throw on a sliver ring for keys and it's all good?

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

That is the point I was talking about with manufacturers and the law. Once used as a weapon 245(a)(1)CPC may or may not apply. CCW's are easier in some states then others. Out here is who you know that matters.

[Fight_Song]

i don't knee brass on my legs or fists to throw punches and kicks.

[Gregster]

1) I don't train Muay Thai, but you don't have to in order to understand that if you train a style that uses shin-strikes, a brass shinguard is redundant.

2) Lightweight, padded shin/instep guards of the sort used in competitive TKD make your legs sweat and stink like a mo-fo. Brass ones in July? Fuggeddaboutit!!

3) Brass knuckle-dusters (like switchblades, butterfly knives, and slap-jacks) have a permanent reputation as something a mugger and not a law-abiding citizen carries. If you get nabbed carrying them, you might be going to jail, even if only for one night.

4) Clever attempts at using or carrying dual-purpose items (i.e. walking around with three or four big-ass, heavy, or jagged-edged rings on each hand) do not fool the cops and make you look even more suspicious. See above about jail.

[Friggintitsman]

Originally Posted by oak99

Congrats, you invented greaves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greave

Known by dozens of other names, depending on the culture/country of origin.

HEH KnowledgePWNT

I would just rather kick some tree until my shins were as tough as iron.