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Old 03-14-2006, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Extendable Batons

Are they legal to carry and how well do they conceal?
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:33 AM   #2 (permalink)

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for law enforcemnt of security only. I want two of them so I can carry then to do Sinwali. But not legal for normals peeps. Get a gaurd license. The baton is call an ASP
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have extendable nunchucks... same thing but nunchucks instead... dont think its legal to wear (could have them wearing swim trunks and you wouldnt see them) but its not like I need them for fighting
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:27 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Check with local law enforcement.

I bought mine-- the longer, two-handed ASP-- in Virginia where I'm pretty sure they're legal. I live in Tennessee now, where they're supposedly for security and police only. I did check up with a couple cops (including the department chair for Crimminal Justice at the school where I teach, a retired KPD detective with 32 years on the force) and I've found that the rules about batons are a lot like knives. To whit: it mostly comes down to the discretion of the officer who finds it on you. If you're dressed in biker rages carrying a butterfly knife, you're apt to be viewed differently than a guy in a suit with a badass letter opener/dagger even if they have the same blade length.

What I was told was, simply: if I'm using it, justifiably, the defend myself then the cop likely won't make it an issue. If I act like an idiot, get pissed off, and start swinging it around, I'll get busted and charged for having it.

If you decide on getting one, get an ASP-- accept no substitutes. I bought a generic baton for half the price at a gun show, and in no time the piece of shit would fling apart when I opened it, nearly taking out a TV once and a computer monitor another time. I wound up spending $70 anyway and getting the ASP.
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Old 03-16-2006, 01:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i'm pretty sure they have some kind of extendable batons in some ma stores here.

probably not the most solid weapon, since it can't be too solid to be extendable. There are more illegal because of conceilability like switchblades.
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i'm pretty sure they have some kind of extendable batons in some ma stores here.

probably not the most solid weapon, since it can't be too solid to be extendable. There are more illegal because of conceilability like switchblades.
Mikado down on Hastings sells generic batons. I've been told that the Spy Store on Broadway sells authentic asp batons. I might go check it out this weekend.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:01 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Ummm, here in California the law is very wierd. If you get caught with a ASP or even Nunchucks that is an automatic FELONY!!! WTF? BUT if you get caught with a gun, that's no biggy, just a midameanor (spelling?).

Also laws in California favor Life over property so if you kill someone because they're trying to steal your wallet, you could be in big trouble. And if you do get caught with an ASP or Bat in your car, make sure you say it's for martial arts class, or you like going to the batting cages or something. DON'T EVER say its for self defense, that just doesn't fly.

Additionally, pepper spray is by FAR the best self defense weapon you can have. Spray and run for help.
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Old 03-17-2006, 01:14 PM   #8 (permalink)

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i got one in my door of my truck. along with a pepper foam and soon i want to put a nice screwdriver in there. the screwdriver would be perfect for when someone reaches into the car. i could use a knife, but a screwdriver is easier to explain.
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i got one in my door of my truck. along with a pepper foam and soon i want to put a nice screwdriver in there. the screwdriver would be perfect for when someone reaches into the car. i could use a knife, but a screwdriver is easier to explain.
You sure about that?

Cop/lawyer: "Why did you have a 12" screwdriver sitting in the passenger door of your car?"
You: "Obviously, in case I...you know...had to tighten up some screws while I'm driving."
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those things get all bent out of shape once you hit something really hard with them, and then after that if your trying to straighten it back up FORGET IT. you might not even be able to open/close it anymore
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