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05-03-2008, 11:24 PM
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Why fedor DEFINETLY CAN ( and most likely will ) beat Tim Syliva
Ok I'll do my best to break this fight down with as little bias as possible. When you see any post by GooberTaylor or Seano, you don't have to read it to know its definetly bullshit in more ways then one.
Wrestling
This one IMO goes into Fedor's favour, you don't have to be a NCAA champ or be a college wrestler ( since there is no college wrestling in russia ) to have a good credential here. Fedor is a Sambo world champion and by just watching him fight you can see he has great technique and control on how he throws his opponent and which position he lands in. Combined with both fighters sizes I give Fedor an advantage. Personally I think he has more strength then Tim Sylvia and better balance. When he gets in close to grab Tim there is no reason why he wouldn't be able to throw him.
Striking
Fedor gets a nod on this one too.. Just joking, Tim's got an advantage here but not as big of an advantage as people think. If this was a pure kickboxing match then Tim would be the favorite IMO. Reach and Power are in his advantage, Fedor probably has more speed, but the thing with Fedor is, he doesn't strike to KO. If you watch his fights you'll agree that he strikes to keep his opponent backing up until he can grab them for the throw. He is always setting things up. But in general aspect of striking, Tim's got the advantage here.
Takedown Defense
For those people saying Fedor won't be able to take Tim down, I think you are wrong, Fedor gets everybody down. Tim has pretty good TDD but Mirko's is even better and Fedor still managed to take him down and beat him. The question is, can Tim KO Fedor for the short time that this fight will be on their feet. I don't think he will. Why? Tim isn't an aggresive striker. He won't go rushing forward trying to score the KO, I think Fedor will push the pace and control this fight.
Reaction and Recovery
I think Fedor has an advantage here for both of these, his reactions are extremely fast and his recovery is even better. He got randleplexed and that shot Fujita landed and he recovered extremely fast from both. Normally when a fighter is rocked like that its over pretty soon after, most fighters lack recovery time.
Cage or Ring
Fedor has the advantage in the ring, Tim has the advantage in the cage. Simple as that
Rules
For those people saying if they use UFC-style rules where elbows are allowed on the ground that will give Tim an advantage IMO is wrong. Tim won't be looking to take Fedor down for any GnP . Fedor is too dangerous of his back, Tim will keep this fight standing. But if Fedor does take tim down and gets on Top, expect some deadly GnP.
Chin, Cutting
Who's chin is better, I'll say they are equal, Goober Taylor said in the other thread Tim has an unbeleivable chin because those haymakers by Arlovski would have put anyone on their ass. Somebody responded '' theres thing guy, mark.. whats his name... he took a kick from cro cop to the head and shook it off '' Goober responded by saying Andre punches harder then Mirko kicks. If thats not bias then nothing is. I think both fighters can be knocked out. Fedor's chin hasn't really been tested too much. As for the cutting issue, Fedor is at a disadvantage here, he bruises and cuts very easily.
Submissions
Submission defense goes to Fedors advantage but he won't be defending submissions anyways, he'll be the one trying to apply them. I think Fedor is on the same level as Nog when it comes to submissions. Nog gets alot of credit because submissions are his only strength. Fedor is a complete fighter and this gets overlooked alot. They have both submitted guy who aren't too good with submission defense. Neither of them have submitted a good BJJ guy but for someone with weak submission defense like Tim, Fedor should be able to submit him relativley easy if he can get him to the ground.
Mental Aspect
I think both fighters will be evenly nervous here, Fedor is trying to keep his legacy alive. And Tim is trying to get the upset. Neither will come in brimming with confidence thinking the other guy is easy. Fedor respects all his opponents and prepares equally for everyone. I'm sure Tim won't underestimate him either. Perhaps Fedor has even more pressure on him since Tim has nothing to lose. He is fighting the guy that nobody has beat yet. Nobody is expecting too much from him. So Timmy perhaps has the advantage here.
Conditioning
Can't really tell who has better conditioning. Fedor did chase Cro cop around the ring for 3 rounds and he runs like 10 miles every day so don't judge a book by its cover he is pretty fit. I'm sure tim will come prepared into the fight also.
My prediction. First round Arm bar or RNC by Fedor.
Again anything can happen in a fight. Tim could land the first punch of the night and knock Fedor out, Nothing is impossible but some things are highly improbable, such as Tim winning here IMO.
Most people are putting this fight at 50/50. I'll put it at 75/25 in Fedor's favour, Thats not me taking anything away from Tim, I would give some other fighters maybe even less of a chance, Fedor-Cc 80/20 Fedor Nog 90/10 Fedor Randy 65/35 ( mainly because of Randy's strength, wrestling, conditioning, and gameplanning )
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05-04-2008, 12:16 AM
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i would make it 90/10 in the sense that if they fought 10 times, fedor would win 9 times, but i would say for the first fight Tim has a 30 % chance to pull it off.
Fedor is the favourite, but don't count Tim out, and if the odds are good, bet on timmeh.
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05-04-2008, 12:17 AM
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Big Tim fan for life!
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Originally Posted by Croatia_K1
Chin, Cutting
Who's chin is better, I'll say they are equal, Goober Taylor said in the other thread Tim has an unbeleivable chin because those haymakers by Arlovski would have put anyone on their ass. Somebody responded '' theres thing guy, mark.. whats his name... he took a kick from cro cop to the head and shook it off '' Goober responded by saying Andre punches harder then Mirko kicks. If thats not bias then nothing is. I think both fighters can be knocked out. Fedor's chin hasn't really been tested too much. As for the cutting issue, Fedor is at a disadvantage here, he bruises and cuts very easily.
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My point about Andrei's punch (on Tim in the second fight) > Mirko's head kick on Hunt is that Andrei landed that punch with everything he had behind it RIGHT ON THE BUTTON. The Mirko/Mark kick (while impressive) didn't have everything behind it that Mirko could have put on it, and it didn't land on the chin (more of where the neck and shoulders meet). If Hunt had been hit by that punch of Andrei's, he would've took a seat just like Tim did. You guys try to hype some people WAY too much. While Hunt has a great chin, he is human and can be KO'd if he is hit with the right punch by the right guy. Anybody can.
Anyways....
Don't have gif of the Andrei/Tim 2 punch but here is the vid: Tim/AA2
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05-04-2008, 12:22 AM
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Except Nog, he is not human
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05-04-2008, 12:23 AM
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All i know is goober will own the boards if Tim wins!
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05-04-2008, 12:34 AM
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I think Tims going to win ... Fedor hasnt been tested, pushed, or fought someone as good as Tim in ages.
I think Fedor will gas if this fights exceeds 3 rounds also. *see Nog fight 3- Fedor gets tired.
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05-04-2008, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Goober Taylor
My point about Andrei's punch (on Tim in the second fight) > Mirko's head kick on Hunt is that Andrei landed that punch with everything he had behind it RIGHT ON THE BUTTON. The Mirko/Mark kick (while impressive) didn't have everything behind it that Mirko could have put on it, and it didn't land on the chin (more of where the neck and shoulders meet). If Hunt had been hit by that punch of Andrei's, he would've took a seat just like Tim did. You guys try to hype some people WAY too much. While Hunt has a great chin, he is human and can be KO'd if he is hit with the right punch by the right guy. Anybody can.
Anyways....
Don't have gif of the Andrei/Tim 2 punch but here is the vid: Tim/AA2
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watch their k1 fight. crocop lands a LHK flush. and although hunt goes down, he regains composure and fights. '
absolutely absurd to say andrei punches hard than crocop kicks.
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05-04-2008, 12:39 AM
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tim's getting his ass handed to him by fedor.
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