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Old 11-17-2008, 07:57 AM   #41 (permalink)

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Fedor stated: "I don't want to make any excuse or argue the judging. Ivanov won fair and square". Head coach of the Russian Combat Sambo Team Aleksander Konakov stated: "Fedor is only human, he lost due to not having time to prepare properly with all the interviews and movies. He has no plans to leave Sambo and will make proper adjustments in the future. As far as losing goes, everyone loses, it's the nature of the sport".

Prior to the tourney Fedor was in Thailand shooting a movie with Michael Madsen, and missed the training camp. Fedor uses Combat Sambo competitions to practice and stay sharp for MMA on regular basis.



Hopefully Ivanov will transition to full-time MMA soon. He is an amazing talent. After outpointing Fedor last night he effortlessly won the Gold medal match (as he always does with the exception of the one time he ran into Fedor in the finals, see above), while Fedor settled for Bronze this time.



Ivanov joins an elite group of great Martial Artists who hold a victory over Fedor in one combat art or another. One example is Aleksander Mikhailin, a 3-time World Judo Champion, Aleksander defeated his training partner and friend Fedor in a close Judo match 8 years ago, and shortly after went on to win 3 Judo World titles. Recently Mikhailin stated: "Fedor has no equals", but it looks like Ivanov was one yesterday. They will fight again soon, no doubt. The next President's cup is only a short time away, and Ivanov will most likely walk thru his competition to the finals, as will Fedor.

This is a "wonderful" opportunity for Dana White and some die-hard UFC fanatics to discredit Fedor. But unfortunately for them, not only does a throw mean everything in Sambo and Judo and nothing in MMA, and Sambo matches are very short (Fedor simply ran out of time), but Ivanov is also a nice guy with whom this poster has spoken, Ivanov will never trash-talk, and he respects Fedor. Don't expect BS and hype from him. He is the most modest human being I ever spoke to. He personally wrote me a warm letter thanking me for kind comments on his fight video in his close defeat to Fedor in the past. Rumors are already starting that Dana White wants him in UFC ASAP I wonder why...
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:27 AM   #42 (permalink)

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I will never, ever believe that Fedor was beaten by anybody at anything.

He used to armbar his dad at chess and RNC his mother over Christmas monopoly.
Fedor doesn't use the RNC. He uses Hadaka Jime, dolt.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:36 AM   #43 (permalink)

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Fedor doesn't use the RNC. He uses Hadaka Jime, dolt.
Rear Naked Choke is a collective term for all similar chokes and the name is actually derived from the Japanese name Hadaka Jime, which means something in the vicinity of 'naked strangle/strangulation.' So a Hadaka Jime is a RNC technique.

This is a good example of why trying to be a tough guy and use insults can backfire since the one you called 'dolt' was correct, leaving you to look worse than you would have by just being wrong.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:58 AM   #44 (permalink)

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Rear Naked Choke is a collective term for all similar chokes and the name is actually derived from the Japanese name Hadaka Jime, which means something in the vicinity of 'naked strangle/strangulation.' So a Hadaka Jime is a RNC technique.

This is a good example of why trying to be a tough guy and use insults can backfire since the one you called 'dolt' was correct, leaving you to look worse than you would have by just being wrong.
Kaishore hadaka jime is a RNC. It is also a sleeper hold, which is a pro wrestling (catch-as-catch-can) hold. What it is not, is hadaka jime. This is a different choke. Hadaka Jime can be applied to the wind pipe or blocks off three arteries.

What Fedor uses in fights is hadaka jime. It is a very different choke in the way that it is applied, pulling your opponent towards you while at the same time, pushing your chest up against the back of your opponents neck and head. Kaishore hadaka jime/RNC/Sleeper involves simply squeezing and does not involve the windpipe.

I'm tired of seeing so-called knowledgeable posters giving improper names to holds.

BTW, you too are a dolt.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:04 AM   #45 (permalink)

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:12 AM   #46 (permalink)

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I want to see this fight.

Fedor must defend his honour!
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:46 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:50 AM   #48 (permalink)

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Old 11-17-2008, 10:07 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:09 AM   #50 (permalink)

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Kaishore hadaka jime is a RNC. It is also a sleeper hold, which is a pro wrestling (catch-as-catch-can) hold. What it is not, is hadaka jime. This is a different choke. Hadaka Jime can be applied to the wind pipe or blocks off three arteries.

What Fedor uses in fights is hadaka jime. It is a very different choke in the way that it is applied, pulling your opponent towards you while at the same time, pushing your chest up against the back of your opponents neck and head. Kaishore hadaka jime/RNC/Sleeper involves simply squeezing and does not involve the windpipe.

I'm tired of seeing so-called knowledgeable posters giving improper names to holds.

BTW, you too are a dolt.
It's you who is too ignorant to realize that RNC is used as a collective term for all similar chokes, not just the one like BJJ uses. It's not at all restricted to describing a blood choke. I'm guessing you have trained Judo but have little MMA experience.

It's basically the same way that 'roundhouse kick' can be used to describe many different kicks, even though they are clearly different in technique and that some martial arts actually call their version 'roundhouse kick' and others call theirs something else.

I thought you would have learned this the last thread I saw you post in where you showed that you didn't even know that Hadaka Jime means naked choke but instead thought it ment rear choke. Given that I guess I can't expect you to know enough to know when you are owning yourself with insults.

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