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Old 03-13-2008, 05:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:26 PM   #22 (permalink)

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Crusher at 7%?
Ishida at 3%?

Sherdog ain't showing no love for T-BLOOD? What's going on here?
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:38 PM   #23 (permalink)

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What the hell?

Crusher has the best shot next to JZ.

The bias against japanese fighters is shown once again
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What the hell?

Crusher has the best shot next to JZ.

The bias against japanese fighters is shown once again
Explain Aoki.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:06 PM   #25 (permalink)

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Of course I will.

A) Sick Submission win over someone relatively known in MMA circles (who really followed Aoki in his shooto days before the gogoplata?)

B) Fans who have been made aware of Aoki's win go on the internet and search as many hightlights and ADCC matches of Aoki as possible

C) They all shit their pants and go Aoki crazy.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #26 (permalink)

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Thought I'd put your data side by side so it's easier to analyze.

Tatsuya Kawajiri +240.................7%
Shinya Aoki +300.....................28%
Gesias Calvancante +320..........33%
Mitsuhiro Ishida +400.................3%
Andre Dida Amade +500 ............1%
Joachim Hansen +625...............13%
Artur Oumakhanov +900.............0%
Eddie Alvarez +1100...................6%
Luiz Buscape Firmino +1500........0%
Kazuyuki Miyata +1800...............0%
Katsuhiko Nagata +1800.............1%
Kotetsu Boku +1800...................1%
Bu Kyung Jung +2200 ................2%
Kultar Gill +3800........................2%
Field (Any Other fighter) +600.....2%

Kawajiri would be my second pick to win the tournament. I'm going with Ishida. Very surprising that Sherdog gave them very few votes. Also find it interesting that the odds makers have Aoki as more of a favorite than Gesias, when all the other odds I've seen for their individual fight, JZ is the favorite to win. Joachim getting a lot of love from Sherdoggers shows people will vote for fighters they like, even when it's going against the odds. I don't understand the love for Alvarez.

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Old 03-13-2008, 06:18 PM   #27 (permalink)

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Hansen is still the only guy on that list who beat JZ.

He's also the only guy on that list who has a win vs. Gomi.
Both of those wins came very early in Gesias's and Gomi's careers. Since then, Joachim has looked decent, but has lost against all the top level competition he has faced, and has also lost to Eiji, who wasn't well known at all before that win.

Hansen is a quality LW, but his competition in this tournament is huge. For him to get 13% of votes is a testament to his drawing power.
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The Alvarez votes have been RonnyB and all the other philly sherdoggers constantly voting.
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The Alvarez votes have been RonnyB and all the other philly sherdoggers constantly voting.
Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:37 PM   #30 (permalink)

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32451 JZ CALVANCANTI +290
32452 TATSUYA KAWAJIRI +300
32453 SHINYA AOKI +345
32454 MITSUHIRO ISHIDA +400
32455 JOACHIM HANSEN +550
32456 ANDRE DIDA +600
32457 EDDIE ALVAREZ +650
32458 KOUTETSU BOKU +700
32459 LUIS BUSCAPE +800
32460 ARTUR UMAKHANOV +1000
32461 KATSUHIKO NAGATA +1250
32462 KAZUYUKI MIYATA +1350
32463 BU KYUNG JUNG +1500
32464 KULTAR GILL +2000
32465 FIELD (ANY FIGHTER NOT LISTED) +550

These are the updated odds from BOF. The seeding here seems just about right.
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