Kimbo vs. Collosus (FIX WAS IN!)

[quayhead]

Originally Posted by mightymike86

wow......well lets see ...he had positions but did nothing with them for nearly a minute so it got stood up, and Kimbo ripped thompson apart just before the stoppage ...after that last punch James's legs wilted and his hands dropped ...the only thing left if the the referee didn't step in was 2-3 unblocked punches to end the fight.

like mentioned before, james thompson is able to fight in that state, i mean, you cant deny that the end of that fight was bs dude, it was blatant

[IrishAssassin13]

The ref deserved an ass wooping, If I was earlobe I would have hit him 2

[The Renegade]

It was probably more the NJAC that told Dan to not let fights go, being as this was on CBS. At the same time that doesnt rule out the idea of EXC paying off or telling Dan how to ref those fights.

Either way something very fishy was going on last night and JT got robbed, the only thing that was proven last night is that Kimbo is far from legitimate. JT was destroying him the first 2 rounds and Kimbo was completly gassed after 4 minutes.

[budva]

i hope this fight proves that kimbo would get destroyed by anyone in the ufc

and

bj penn would kill kimbo slice end of thread

[MMAstop]

yea jt was goin 30 percent on kimbo with the elbows he didnt wanna cut or hurt kimbo "i can only beat cans " slice . they need kimbo for future fixes. lol if kimbo loses elite xc fails thats what happens when you put all your promotion on 1 backyard rat

[Aswipe]

Originally Posted by Shatcore

Miragliotta doesn't work for the EliteXC he works for the athletic state commission you tit, he's independent.

Refs are independent of the promoter, officially. But we aren't talking about anything official here are we.

[Doodies]

Originally Posted by Aswipe

Refs are independent of the promoter, officially. But we aren't talking about anything official here are we.

Exactly, even if their working for a different people/org doesn't mean one can't pay off the other..

[Ice That Jaw]

Originally Posted by smitty1919

It was a complete joke starting from Carano's weigh-in.

The doctor fails to give Smith his full five minutes before calling the fight.

Dan stands up JT and Kimbo while JT is in side mount.

JT gets rocked and still throws a punch that just misses and the fight is stopped.

These are the times that I wish guys like Shaw had the balls to come on a forum like this and witness what an actual fan thinks of this garbage they tried to pass off as legit MMA.

Shut the fuck up ***boy. You act like this shit doesn't happen in your precious UFC. It has happened alot and Rogan always complains about it.

[Done Deal DR]

A lot of people are saying that because this was the first MMA fight on network TV that Elite XC and CBS didn't want any more violence than necessary. The problem with that logic is that MMA is a SPORT first and foremost. A sport that has rules, the unified rules. You can't go and change the rules for any situation just because that will suit the promoter and broadcaster.

Stand up from side control? Ridiculous. That is a dominant position and for all we know JT could have snapped Kimbo's arm with a Kimura 10 seconds later.

Ref threatening to stand them up at the end of round 2 while JT has a crucifix on Kimbo and throwing unanswered punches and elbows for 1:20-2:00? No, the rules state that a fighter must be intelligently defending themselves, not blocking them with their face over and over, and...well...over while their arms are trapped.

Calling the fight standing after a total of 4 punches landed on JT and he was still intelligently moving out to get himself composed? I've never seen that happen, and to blame it on it being the first MMA event on network TV is BS. I've seen boxers get beat to shit, probably suffering long-term health damage, on network TV over a decade ago. I'm not one to call fixes, but that was clearly a decision to call the fight as soon as Kimbo had any sort of control of the fight. 4 shots? Ok, call it! That call seems to suit Gary Shaw the best, strange.

Then on the Lawler/Smith fight, a fight that would have went down as a classic regardless of organization/promoter, the rules state that after a foul the affected fighter has 5 minutes to recover from said foul. Smith told the ringside doctor that he couldn't see at the time but wanted to take his 5 minutes to recover. The fight was stopped after he had just 1-2 minutes of hit allotted time. You can see he was clearly fine and ready to compete just a minute after the fight was called and the fight could have continued per the unified rules. Those are the rules, the ringside doctor checked the wrong eye TWICE! You can see clearly that Smith is like "No, the other eye". The doctor couldn't even discern which eye was "damaged", and all Smith wanted was his allotted time. SHAME...like I said, would have went down as a classic.

The point is that rules can't be changed in MMA because it happens to be airing on a certain channel, etc. Rules are rules, and they were severely taken out of context during last night's Elite XC/CBS event. They may be able to pull that garbage on people that have never seen MMA, and while I'm sure that even some of them were calling bullshit and fix and all that, it will never fly with those of us who understand MMA and understand the rules of MMA.

[Victa]

Originally Posted by smitty1919

It was a complete joke starting from Carano's weigh-in.

The doctor fails to give Smith his full five minutes before calling the fight.

Dan stands up JT and Kimbo while JT is in side mount.

JT gets rocked and still throws a punch that just misses and the fight is stopped.

These are the times that I wish guys like Shaw had the balls to come on a forum like this and witness what an actual fan thinks of this garbage they tried to pass off as legit MMA.

Thank you