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Old 05-17-2008, 01:47 AM   #41 (permalink)
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What else did Ken say? I wasn't able to listen.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:48 AM   #42 (permalink)

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I like Ken, but I think he's wrong on this one. Of course people here pick that one comment and try and paint Ken as an idiot for it when the rest of the interview went very well.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:48 AM   #43 (permalink)

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That's funny, because Ken was tko'd from elbowstrikes three times


Elbows don't cause any damage!
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:50 AM   #44 (permalink)

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That's funny, because Ken was tko'd from elbowstrikes three times, one of which resulted in the fight being called because his face had as many bumps, highs, lows as a mountain range; the fight wasnt called because of a cut, and most of the damage was caused by elbows.

I'd be more than happy to ban elbows in favor of kneestrikes on the ground but saying that elbows causing little damage is simply asinine. fedor has never one-punch ko'd someone- by that logic, his punches don't do much damage.
I forgot to mention this previously: My main point when I posted on this thread was to say that Ken is actually a pretty cool guy that always has time for his fans. He is a decent guy and friendly to boot. He is an icon in mma and pancrase. that should not be discounted and all that...anywho, have a wonderful evening. Im hauling my old ass to bed. Had a friggin fitness test for the Border Patrol today that beat my ass. Peace
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:54 AM   #45 (permalink)

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Your point is noted and taken. I should say that the fights I thought would go one way went the opposite because of an elbow. And I should have qualified my argument by admitting that elbows while in the guard and while ones opponent is pinned on the ground, do some pretty good damage. Its when i see an elbow thrown by someone standing up, that was clearly not meant to knock someone down or out, and was only meant as a means to cause blood-flow, that I get really pissed. Especially when they are thrown by a certain cocky, gangly, fighter that I cannot stand. I guess thats the point I was making. And you are right...I certainly was talking out of my ass.
I share your (and everyone else's frustration) at fights that end due to cuts but these tend to happen by knees or punches more than elbows. I also share your distaste for the shit Ken gets on these boards. Though a shadow of his former self and the game has blown passed him, he helped build the house every modern fighter trains in and he should be respected as such.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:55 AM   #46 (permalink)

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Its when i see an elbow thrown by someone standing up, that was clearly not meant to knock someone down or out, and was only meant as a means to cause blood-flow, that I get really pissed. Especially when they are thrown by a certain cocky, gangly, fighter that I cannot stand.
So you want to ban STANDING elbows?

That puts you in a serious minority.

Also, in regards to your Florian hate, I'll grant you that the elbow he got Leben with was intended to cut more than anything else. He aimed right for the eyebrow. However, the one he got Karalexis with was just beautiful close quarters Muay Thai striking. He didn't just cut Karalexis, he nearly ripped his nose off his face. That was as legit a standing elbow as you will ever see.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:56 AM   #47 (permalink)

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Had a friggin fitness test for the Border Patrol today that beat my ass.
good luck with that, it's valuable work and god knows how much we need it.
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Old 05-17-2008, 02:12 AM   #48 (permalink)

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Both guys aren't very good at trash talking
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Old 05-17-2008, 02:33 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Kens Definately A Fool!!!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 02:48 AM   #50 (permalink)

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People who think elbows should be illegal are morons. Plain and simple.


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