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Old 06-20-2008, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Icon4 Frank Dux Exposed

Seriously, I can't believe any of you buy into Frank Dux's story, yet in the Frank Dux Repsonds thread, some people are coming to his defense. They claim that he might have really won all those fightes, been a kumite master, etc. Well before you go running your mouth, read the major investiagtion that was done on his claims and more spefcifically his fight record. You will see it's all bullshido:

http://www.bullshido.com/articles/frankdux-3.html

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Self described "Ninja Master" Frank Dux is a prominent and much-discussed figure in the Martial Arts and specifically Ninjitsu / Ninjutsu community. This article, by reknowned researcher M.C. Busman, of his accomplishments and credentials as a Martial Artist exposes the flaws, discrepancies, and outright fabrications in Dux' story.

Dux claims to:
- Have the "most consecutive knockouts in a single tournament - 56"
Comments: Even if Dux was the only other competitor in his "Kumite" division that year, there would have been 57 men total (56 knocked out + Dux) competing in his "Heavyweight Full Contact Division" alone. And he would have had to knock every man out. How did all these guys, their trainers, coaches, girlfriends and assorted hangers-on blend in in the Bahamas without alerting authorities to their presence? How did Dux manage that, when most boxers and kickboxers who face well-trained opponents are usually pretty worn out after a single match? How do these numbers for one year affect his claim to have fought 329 matches as a secret Kumite fighter over the course of his secret undocumented career?

- be the "First kumite fighter to be undefeated with over 100 matches"
Comments: Even the Gracies lose now & then. Of course, their credited losses (and their numerous wins) are documented.

- "First Kumite fighter to exceed 300 matches"
Comments: Who was the first Kumite fighter to exceed 200, and how do people keep track of this stuff at secret events which are held year after year?

- Have a "Final Kumite record - 329 matches"
Comments: Who documented this record, and who were the matches against? Most full-contact fighters don't go over 50 matches in their lifetimes.

Unfortunately for martial arts historians, Frank Dux has never provided an iota of evidence that he fought in even a local no-contact tournament. There are no photographs, periodical clippings, or reliable witness testimonies. Nor do the articles in Black Belt circa 1980 back up Dux's claims--they merely suggest that the writers and editors of that era weren't cautious about the materials they accepted for publication, or checking the background of men with unusual stories.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:02 PM   #2 (permalink)

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He knocked those guys out so cold they dont even recall fighting him or the Kumite itself. A kick at those mif's is deadly
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:06 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Old 06-20-2008, 01:07 PM   #5 (permalink)

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im just surprised that people are shocked about this. i didnt think frank dux was such a big deal nowadays.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:21 PM   #6 (permalink)

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WOW FLASHBACK!!!!!!

Thing you need to understand about Dux's BS is it was created before the mighty internet. So it was more of a just a wisetale that was just passed on from one person to the next along with a few BS interviews mixed in. Once the mid 90's came to life his life story was quickly shown as a false.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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WOW FLASHBACK!!!!!!

Thing you need to understand about Dux's BS is it was created before the mighty internet. So it was more of a just a wisetale that was just passed on from one person to the next along with a few BS interviews mixed in. Once the mid 90's came to life his life story was quickly shown as a false.
Yup, right up there with "Ashida Kim" - which isnt even his real name.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:35 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Dude, there are three great fighters in the history of MMA


Chuck Norris
Frank Dux
Fedor

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Old 06-20-2008, 01:47 PM   #9 (permalink)

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go on wikipedia and search for frank dux
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