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Old 05-17-2008, 08:41 AM   #81 (permalink)

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You are a fucking idiot comparing girls to Fedor!!
I said she has been as dominant relative to the best opposition in women's MMA as Fedor has been to the best opposition in men's MMA. I didn't say that the women's opposition is comparable to men's from a general standpoint you fucking idiot, only that LaRosa has beaten the best of what's out there. I guess you would never have considered Serena Williams a dominant tennis player because she never would have beaten any good pro men's players.
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:43 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I said she has been as dominant relative to the best opposition in women's MMA as Fedor has been to the best opposition in men's MMA. I didn't say that the women's opposition is comparable to men's from a general standpoint you fucking idiot, only that LaRosa has beaten the best of what's out there. I guess you would never have considered Serena Williams a dominant tennis player because she never would have beaten any good pro men's players.
My bad. I had a few beers.
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I love Gina.
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I said she has been as dominant relative to the best opposition in women's MMA as Fedor has been to the best opposition in men's MMA. I didn't say that the women's opposition is comparable to men's from a general standpoint you fucking idiot, only that LaRosa has beaten the best of what's out there. I guess you would never have considered Serena Williams a dominant tennis player because she never would have beaten any good pro men's players.
That may of been the dumbest post in Sherdog history. Thats saying a lot.

Your comparing a man whos undefeated in mens competition to a girl who has been beaten in the female highly unskilled league. There aren't many female mma fighters out there. What your dumb ass just did was say that the WNBA's Candice Parker is the Michael Jordan of women. What you don't realize is that the men have lots of fan fair and TONS of fighters trying to break in to the sport while the female ranks have a very very VERY limited pool of fighters. Most of which have hardly any talent to start with. Basically Larosa in my opinion is what happens when a female fighter acctually gets good training and takes the sport as seriously as a avreage male fighter. Whats that say? Shes a fighter amongst a bunch of girls. I wouldn't call what shes doing a great accomplishment for the world or start comparing her to greatness. Lets just say shes really good.

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She is famous, because she is cute, thats the only reason.

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harsh but probably somewhat true as far as the general public
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Your comparing a man whos undefeated in mens competition to a girl who has been beaten in the female highly unskilled league. There aren't many female mma fighters out there. What your dumb ass just did was say that the WNBA's Candice Parker is the Michael Jordan of women. What you don't realize is that the men have lots of fan fair and TONS of fighters trying to break in to the sport while the female ranks have a very very VERY limited pool of fighters. Most of which have hardly any talent to start with. Basically Larosa in my opinion is what happens when a female fighter acctually gets good training and takes the sport as seriously as a avreage male fighter. Whats that say? Shes a fighter amongst a bunch of girls. I wouldn't call what shes doing a great accomplishment for the world or start comparing her to greatness. Lets just say shes really good.

I never said or even suggested that the women's competition is 1/100th as good as the men's. I was comparing levels of dominance over the best of what's out there in their respective divisions. Try reading a little better.
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This version of MMA has very limited, vastly non-brutal knockouts and features fighters that 99% of the MMA audience won't find the least bit intimidating to them. The fighters therefore won't really be respected by the masses as a warrior or a fighter but as a sexual delusion in a cage with a secondary marketing goal of attracting female viewers to the mma audience.

Im not being sexist, I promise you Im objective to females Im merely being 100% brutally honest. Carano's not a great fighter for female standards even. Everything I hear on this girl is if she wasn't hot people would be saying "Gina who?". Not a top Female performer but as long as they feed her tomato cans for fan fair purposes they will make her look good and try and promote female mma. I worry what kind of bad press will come of it for MMA if it gets too big. God forbid we have a situation where we have a girl crying and bloody after being beat down in a fight and we have this girls bloody face (originally on CBS) on the likes of CNN and have jackasses like Bill O'Reilly jumping on the oppertunity to take a cheep shot at the sport. (The fighter probably crying out of disappointment rather than pain, men have done it a lot in MMA). In my opinion it only serves as a stop block to legalizing MMA across the United States. People will see it as the poor girl she shouldn't be fighting in a cage! Im all for female sports and Im for females competing in mma if they wish, I just think its going to be bad for the MMA image.

Also the TS posted the comment of girls of the age of 6-12 years old being inspired by these fighters as a good thing. I think that girls or boys for that matter at the age of 6-12 shouldn't be subjected to cage fighting and then encouraged to become a "cage fighter". I think this is all kinds of a bad idea. A 6 year old shouldnt even be watching MMA let alone the pre-teen middle school gangs going around breaking everyones arms on the playground. I think this is most definitly a sport catagorized as an ADULT sport reguardless of gender. So lets not get carried away with inspiring 6 year old girls to be cage fighters now.
Yeah, the masses or a majority might see it that way so what? So fems should be denied on that basis? 99%? I dunno how big or trained you are but 99% shows you don't know enough female fighters to say that.

Giving into a sexist thinking and acquiescing to those in the wrong, next step - you might as well be sexist yourself, so its NOT an option. While it may be inappropriate and not completely analagous, you worrying about FeMMA hindering and potentially dangerous to MMA reminds me of some early Civil Rights promoters suggesting or promoting only minority males get their rights, and fems can wait till the masses get more accepting of it.

Once again, you don't know enough FeMMA if you think Evinger, Kedzie and Young are cans. Hell, they're far better than Baslzer's last 3 opponents and LaRosa's last one, and this fight on the 31st is touted as helping determine who is the best standup fighter, a kind of "battle for the future". So yeah, if Carano wasn't pretty they(fans of FeMMA not detractors and sexist deniers like yourself) would be saying who's this girl sorta like they do for Sarah Kaufman or Kaitlin Young.

6-12 year olds, OK. But Gina, according to testimonials from her interviews, has inspired age appropriate fems and that should certainly be praised.

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