Aleks Emelianenko on Skinhead/Nazi-Propaganda-Videos - translation needed! - Page 9

lensls1 · 01-26-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul Tornado

Sorry about being harsh. I apologize, but I got really riled up when in your other previous post you basically asserted that Fedor and his buddies are racists. you wrote: .

No problem. Just to clarify, I said that in all probability, Fedor is an anti-semite as well. I wasn't 100% in his regard. But why would he be friends with one if he wasn’t one himself? Are you friends with KKK members?

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Originally Posted by Soul Tornado

You basically said that Fedor, Aleks and Roman were "fuckers" and racists based on the fact that they took some pictures with a bunch of guys who were probably hiding their true agenda from them. A little too quick to assume I think. Did you read the article on the M-1 site? "strip the soul" has provided the link.
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I stand behind what I said, any racist is a fucker and I have no respect for them. I don’t care about reading an article on the M-1 site with Roman denying that he is a racist. He is a supporter of a racist organization, that is all I or anyone else needs to know.

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Originally Posted by Soul Tornado

I agree with you on the notion that this organization is filled with delusional whackos who will support using violence against people of non-slavic origin. However, I am going to trust Roman's word on all of this and believe him when he says that he is not a racist and is not affiliated with them. I have never met him personally but am a long-time fan and to me he has always had an honest attitude. So, if he was part of their clan, I don't think he would hesitate to say so. What's the other alternative? To make an assumption based on some pictures of a site that will do anything to brainwash frustrated youth?
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Why on earth would you attend a neo-nazi rally, appear on a neo-nazi web site, appear in a Youtube video wearing a neo-nazi t-shirt if you weren’t a neo-nazi? The answer is simple; Roman Zentsov is a neo-nazi, he did all of the above. Do you really think that he is that stupid and didn’t know what he was getting into? He is not a child.

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Originally Posted by Soul Tornado

If I see some convincing evidence about Zentsov, Aleks or Fedor, I, like you, will be severely dissapointed and they will lose me as a fan. However, I think everything provided thus far is taken out of context and propagandized by those neo-nazi mudaki.

What more do you need? A signed affidavit? The truth is starring at you. I was surprised more than anyone...I was a huge fan of theirs. That all changed thanks to the TS. It really opened my eyes to what is going on.

lensls1 · 01-26-2009, 05:19 PM

double post

HHJ · 01-26-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Your Moms Tits

doesn't look like nazi propaganda

just some russian nationalist stuff

hey i dont like it any more than you but give me a break

HHJ · 01-26-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HuMz

Those people are editing clips of russian fighters interview into their nazi propaganda clips.

You know Aleks can't track every video about him on youtube.

roman is clearly wearing the nationalist shirt,and aleks was shaking hands with one the main guys

HHJ · 01-26-2009, 05:25 PM

fedor is probably an anti semite even though his manager is a russian jew LOL

lensls1 · 01-26-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul Tornado

Sorry about being harsh. I apologize, but I got really riled up when in your other previous post you basically asserted that Fedor and his buddies are racists. you wrote:

"I had no idea what these fuckers were involved with. Anti-Semitism is alive and well in Russia and Alek, Roman and in all probability, Fedor are involved. Why would Fedor be the best of friends with a racist (Roman) if he wasn’t one himself? Guilty by association, I suppose."

You basically said that Fedor, Aleks and Roman were "fuckers" and racists based on the fact that they took some pictures with a bunch of guys who were probably hiding their true agenda from them. A little too quick to assume I think. Did you read the article on the M-1 site? "strip the soul" has provided the link.

I agree with you on the notion that this organization is filled with delusional whackos who will support using violence against people of non-slavic origin. However, I am going to trust Roman's word on all of this and believe him when he says that he is not a racist and is not affiliated with them. I have never met him personally but am a long-time fan and to me he has always had an honest attitude. So, if he was part of their clan, I don't think he would hesitate to say so. What's the other alternative? To make an assumption based on some pictures of a site that will do anything to brainwash frustrated youth?

If I see some convincing evidence about Zentsov, Aleks or Fedor, I, like you, will be severely dissapointed and they will lose me as a fan. However, I think everything provided thus far is taken out of context and propagandized by those neo-nazi mudaki.

No problem. Just to clarify, I said that in all probability, Fedor is an anti-Semite as well. Why would he be friends with one if he wasn’t one himself? Are you friends with KKK members?

I stand behind what I said, any racist is a fucker and I have no respect for them. I don’t care about reading an article on the M-1 site with Roman denying that he is a racist. He is a supporter of a racist organization, that is all I or anyone else needs to know.

Why on earth would you attend a neo-nazi rally, appear on a neo-nazi web site, appear in a Youtube video wearing a neo-nazi t-shirt if you weren’t a neo-nazi? The answer is simple; Roman Zentsov is a neo-nazi, he did all of the above. Do you really think that he is that stupid and didn’t know what he was getting into? He is not a child.

What more do you need? A signed affidavit? The truth is starring at you. I was surprised more than anyone...I was a huge fan of theirs. That all changed thanks to the TS. It really opened my eyes to what is going on.

HHJ · 01-26-2009, 05:27 PM

im not surprised about zentsov,he had the swastika tat under his arm and wore russian power shirts

i mean,its not hard to guess

DrSatanDracula · 01-26-2009, 08:35 PM

It is pretty obvious that Aleks has sympathies to Nationalism. The Emelianenko brothers are relatively close with Putin and seem to be Russian nationalists in general.

There is nothing wrong with this.

They do not appear to be racist or hateful, but it is clear that they love Russia and supprot nationalism.

The Nazi symbology is pretty obviously conneted to Aleks' nationalism, though. But probably not in a hateful sense, as it is not psycho-offensive in Russia (weirdly).

conda · 01-27-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sway

Haha, ok here we go...

Again, it is obvious they at least SYMPATHIZE w/ the far right (though evidently Roman is a member of a group," and yes I have heard these explanations before. Those symbols mean a certain thing in the year 2009, there is no escaping their definition, they are so notorious that no one uses them without knowing the connotation. The degree to which they sympathize is debatable.

"Gott mit uns" has noting to do w/ NS huh? The phrase gained absolutely no notoriety whatsoever for being worn on the belt buckles of German soldiers during WWII huh? Right? Hmm??

Oh and your last comment is completely fucking ridiculous. Impossible for a slav to be a Nazi?? How come Russia has more Nazi skinheads than any other country on earth? "Oh it doesn't count because they are slavs, all that seig heiling and swastikas mean something else..."

And you told ME to "read anything for God sakes.." haha good one buddy...

"So and so can't be a nazi because he is slavic," or "Anderson Silva isn't black he's Brazillian," two of my favorite racially related ignorant statements regularly posted on Sherdog.

Got mit uns is old and means god is with us, I dont know how knowledgable you are about religion in the third reich but, christianity was not a part of national socialism and never will be, again just read mein kampf or do a little research on how christianity was pursecuted in the third reich. the nazis didnt just come up with Got mit uns, they took it from gustavus adolphus. the german soldiers were never 100 % required to be nazis. the SS for instance never wore "got mitt uns" on their belts and their training included ideological teachings, but hitler needed the werhmacht and many of them were very religious.

its impossible for them to be pure national socialists since national socialism is founded on the germanic/nordic races. they can be slavic nationalists and some of them can fancy themselfs as nazis but if they did some read some of the NSDAPs writings they would realise that being a slavic nationalist and a national socialist isnt possible.

Tobegolm · 01-27-2009, 05:44 AM

This is from an interview Sherdog did with Aleksander last year:

On whom he would like to meet, alive or dead:

Emelianenko: I’d like to talk to Muhammad Ali. If not for him, I don’t know where the world of boxing would be today.
I think that everything that boxing has achieved to date, it’s because of the great fighters like Forman, Frazier and those even earlier, Robinson. There are many boxers, but very few greats that changed everything.
They did what they did; they fought and forged the road ahead.

I doubt a racist would have said that.

I'm not sure about Roman, though..