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Old 06-25-2008, 09:48 AM   #21 (permalink)

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This lists kinda blows. The names Serra and Leben aren't present at all, yet Nate Diaz is at the top? He's been fighting cans.

Regardless, I suppose it was interesting
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:51 AM   #22 (permalink)

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it's crazy to think Lebens had 11 fights for the UFC already - is that the most for any tuf guy?
he has 13 fights in the ufc
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:53 AM   #23 (permalink)

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i agree with most of the list...good article
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:05 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Jardine is always disrespected. He beat the number 1 on the list yet he is number 9. And he beat Liddell too.

Also, people who say Serra should be on there or people who act as though he is purely from TUF are noobs. It's an easy way to tell as if they were fans before TUF they would know he was a top LW before and many think he was robbed of the decision vs Penn.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:11 AM   #25 (permalink)

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If you want the "toughest fighters" I think Leben has to be in there, he is tough as hell but then Jardine wouldn't be in there. If you mean best as in skill, Hamill has to go I would probably put swick or danzig in there. Overall, I think the list is pretty good and no list will be perfect.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:28 AM   #26 (permalink)

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How is Koschek nş2? Yeah he is a good wrestler, but he barely beat any Top name.

Record wise Diego should be number 2. Most stacked division, and only lost to Koschek in a fight neither should´ve won, and Fitch. Not to say he already beat Koschek.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:31 PM   #27 (permalink)

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good list but swap matt hamill for chris leben
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:03 PM   #28 (permalink)

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leben should have made the list
I agree. the only one to finish the TUF run. and obviously one tough mother fucker
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:44 PM   #29 (permalink)
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"Well, apparently we’re seeing a trend. The talent pool is apparently shrinking, or the big wigs at The Ultimate Fighting Championship are picking the wrong guys. Seven of ten fighters on the list emerged from the first two seasons of The Ultimate Fighter. Sure those guys have had more time to prove themselves, regardless, we haven’t seen the talent rise, we’ve seen it plummet dramatically. From Chris Leben to Marlon Sims to Jeremy May, we’re not exactly battling an incline of talent. "

is he saying that chris leben wasn't talented? Thats ridiculous, i thought he should have been on the list.
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it's crazy to think Lebens had 11 fights for the UFC already - is that the most for any tuf guy?
I think so, yes. Diego has 10, Kos has 10, KenFlo has 9 - lots of the original cast have made it to 10+ fights, which is itself an achievement.

Funny how all the TUF noob haters were dead wrong about the show, seeing as a large portion of Season One has gone on to become elite fighters. Nice going, "experts."
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