is kimbo really that bad

[devante]

i know..i know another kimbo thread

people say he hasn't fought ANYONE; but real talk, how many guys BEFORE they get on tuf fight top notch or 2nd tier guys on the way up; hardly anyone, so why do people give him so much flack.

i know he got alot of money; but who the hell wouldn't take the cash and make the most of it, none of us would and none of these fighters who whine/complain about the payscales/etc would do it either.

Kimbo fought some pretty decent guys, at least comparable to the type of guys the majority of young heavies fight coming up; faded or not doesn't matter the fact is he beat these guys.

i mean people say he beat mercer so what, mercer koed sylvia; an dont complain about the gameplan and tell me sylvia sucks. The facts are the facts a two time hw champ and mma vet couldn't fight smart and beat a boxer; but an ex streetfighter w/no b/g in mma could.

tank abbot might have been faded, but he still iced cabbage and he can still punch; kimbo didn't sub him or control him on the ground he traded w/him and stopped him, if nothing else tank can strike. Kimo didnt want to strike w/him, even frank mir didn't trade w/him; even when tank was old they still didn't want it w/him on the feet.

bo cantrell might have taken a dive; but that was him folding under the pressure, not kimbos fault an mma rookie handled the pressure better than an mma vet.

thompson, though a bit of a gift, kimbo looked good in his 3rd fight against a guy who has fought frye yoshida aleks e. rodgers etc; not to mention having ten times as many fights as kimbo. Kimbo worked him standing, def takedowns well; got back to his feet on numerous occassions and though he was controlled wasn't finished, nor did he tap out from strikes.

the only fight he looked bad in was against seth; an that was after him losing his original opp and having to fight a new guy w/a couple'a hours notice. I mean most mma guys wouldn't have done well against petruzelli, esp a guy w/3 freaking fights who hadn't fought even a top 20/25 guy. I bet if 90% of the guys in the house would have gotten stopped by seth under the same circumstances; i can guarantee it, maybe roy nelson wouldn't.

i watched his fights, he honestly didn't look that bad in any of them, seriously; he didn't look out of place or outclassed. He looked like a new mma guy who is dev his skills and comfort in mma; but never did he look like a guy (who when matched w/ guys of comparable exp/ability) will get tooled.

im willing to bet his opp have better win loss records than the majority of the guys the other hw have faced w/a few exceptions here and there; i expect him to do well and at LEAST win one fight, unless its against nelson.

But i don't look to see him get dominated or run over; an honestly if he doesn't get knocked out he will get his props, submission loss won't do anything to him or his rep as people know he has no real b/g in that.

[Knyghtmare]

I think Kimbo has tha chance ta b a real solid MMA fighter n tha near future. Wit more experience he could be above average mma fighter. I hope he win's tha nxt TUF show.

[WalkenWouldOwn]

Did you really just write a novel about Kimbo?

Summarize please.

[Hit-or-be-hit]

i hope Kimbo wins a couple fights but doesnt win it all. Cuz well i know some ignorant people who only know maybe one or 2 mma fighters that still say Kimbo is the best fighter

[Allegory]

Who said Kimbo was bad? He catches crap because he's not top ten (or even top 50 probably) and was marketed as the baddest man on the planet. Who cares. He's pretty good, he seems to be pretty cool. F it. Watch him or don't.

TS, you put way too much thought into Kimbo

[McLovin rules**]

i think its all or nothing for kimbo right now

[Justin Haughn]

it's not that he's "that bad", he's just not that good

[zinndawg]

it's not that he's all that bad, its just that he's not very good and he was headlining mma events. That makes the sport look bad considering we've only started hitting mainstream recently. Fans don't want people to see MMA for something that looks amateur, so everyone tried to make it a point to completely trash kimbo so that he wouldn't have any credibility and thus could be separated from the rest of the sport.

If he was just some guy fighting on the undercard of a low budget show, no1 would criticize him.

[GorillaWarFair]

i dont think kimbo is that bad at all, and i'll root for him to an extent. i think he catches a lot of crap for the way that the Shaws acted and promoted him, but that's not his fault. it seems like he tries hard, keeps his ego in check, and understands that his street fighting experience doesnt mean very much when compared to the mma greats, so he's alright by me. with guys like jim york and roy nelson in the house, i dont think he has a chance at making it to the finals, so i wont even hope for it, but i hope he can win a couple at least.

[NurseKnuckles]

If Kimbo wins, people will think its fixed, so he'd be best to lose and pick up a contract outside of TUF