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Old 05-16-2008, 12:16 AM   #1 (permalink)

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In Defense Of Patrick Schultz...

... It was two knockdowns.

And I'm a Forrest fan, in fact that's putting it lightly. I actually put money on him to beat Page (who I also like).

Getting back to the point: I think Forrest was posturing a little bit because he felt challenged by Rampage's tantrum about a third round... so he felt the need to argue with Page and say "it was only one knockdown".

I have two problems with this statement by Forrest.

Problem #1: It is incorrect.

Problem #2: These guys just poured their hearts out competing in a cage. Blood, sweat and tears. Even if Forrest had been correct, the last thing a guy (Schultz) wants to hear after performing like that is the opposing coach standing in the cage four seconds after the fight arguing and debating the details of the bout Sherdog-style across the room. Forrest knows that better than anybody.

Forrest was either knee-jerk standing up for his boy or was just plain mistaken.

But either way Schultz has a right to defend that statement right at that moment, it was two knockdowns. And I think his statement right after about "get in the corner Forrest, I can't wait until you fight Rampage" is understandable and needs to be given a little more leeway by us fans under the circumstances.

This whole post is more of a defense of Schultz than it is a critique of Forrest, really. Honestly I don't think any of this is a big deal. I just see Schultz getting a lot of hate around here over what he said, and I don't see it that way, I thought it was more or less justified.

That is all! Imo.

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Old 05-16-2008, 12:23 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Haha yeah my topic did kind of explode.

While i agree that he was, and rightfully should have been, upset with the way things were going (his blog even pointed out that he was waiting 5 minutes, not the 15 seconds we saw, to get to the announcement.) I still think that what he said was immature and stupid and i stand by that.

I wasn't trying to turn it into a big hate fest, rather just pointing out some thing i thought was wrong with the way he acted.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:27 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Good post man

I met Schultz at a show a few weeks ago and bullshitted with him for a bit. Seems like the type of guy you go grab some beers with.

Your right. Probably just emmotional after the fight. Guy lost and had to hear someone discredit his hard fought fight.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:34 AM   #4 (permalink)

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I wasn't trying to turn it into a big hate fest, rather just pointing out some thing i thought was wrong with the way he acted.
Once Forrest goes over the line by engaging the losing coach in an argument while standing in the cage, also discrediting Shultz's two knockdowns, he (Forrest) becomes fair game for Schultz to tell him he is going to get his ass kicked -- and more importantly, to get back in his corner.

Yes Schultz showed him disrespect with that statement, but Forrest did not deserve otherwise at that moment. Forrest crossed the line of disrespect first.

Again I am a Forrest fan to the end, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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Well agree to disagree.

We still want the same result of Forrest beating rampage in the end
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Well agree to disagree.

We still want the same result of Forrest beating rampage in the end
Hell yes. And I agree with Rampage, it won't go to a decision.
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:30 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Any guy who streaks his hair is a knob, plain and simple. War Cale, war Forrest. Boo Quinton.
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Any guy who streaks his hair is a knob, plain and simple. War Cale, war Forrest. Boo Quinton.
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... It was two knockdowns.

And I'm a Forrest fan, in fact that's putting it lightly. I actually put money on him to beat Page (who I also like).

Getting back to the point: I think Forrest was posturing a little bit because he felt challenged by Rampage's tantrum about a third round... so he felt the need to argue with Page and say "it was only one knockdown".

I have two problems with this statement by Forrest.

Problem #1: It is incorrect.

Problem #2: These guys just poured their hearts out competing in a cage. Blood, sweat and tears. Even if Forrest had been correct, the last thing a guy (Schultz) wants to hear after performing like that is the opposing coach standing in the cage four seconds after the fight arguing and debating the details of the bout Sherdog-style across the room. Forrest knows that better than anybody.

Forrest was either knee-jerk standing up for his boy or was just plain mistaken.

But either way Schultz has a right to defend that statement right at that moment, it was two knockdowns. And I think his statement right after about "get in the corner Forrest, I can't wait until you fight Rampage" is understandable and needs to be given a little more leeway by us fans under the circumstances.

This whole post is more of a defense of Schultz than it is a critique of Forrest, really. Honestly I don't think any of this is a big deal. I just see Schultz getting a lot of hate around here over what he said, and I don't see it that way, I thought it was more or less justified.

That is all! Imo.

War Forrest
good post, forrest got overheated and basically questioned schultz success in the fight; its obvious he put cale down twice and was handing him his ass standing, an if i was schultz i would have popped off too, griffin made an unecessary comment that took away from patrick
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I thought Schultz knocked Cale down once and the other time looked more like a slip than a knock down to me...maybe that's what Forrest saw too.

And Rampage was the one who started the argument about a 3rd round...not Forrest...Forrest just agreed that each guy had won a round and it should go to a 3rd and he said his guy was ready. I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Rampage was the one on the sidelines, starting shit. Mainly, because he's pissed off that his guys keep losing.

I'm sure Schultz is probably a nice guy, but that comment of his to Forrest was very disrespectful. He's lucky Griffin didn't go after his ass...
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