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Old 05-08-2008, 02:35 AM   #11 (permalink)

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I thought at one point in the first the guy on bottom was taking a nap while the other guy was laying on top of him waiting for the round to end
that seems to be exactly what was happening
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I am not intending to fighter bash but that was a sad fight. I don't get people saying that was exciting. After about 2 minutes they both were throwing punches like they were afraid to knock each other out. They both looked like they werent giving it their all and either could've finished it soon with a little heart.

Bash if me you wish for saying that was a lame fight but at the level they are going for, there is no excuse for that type of performance.
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:48 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Yo can we just retire this "noob" term? It's now getting used for any and everything that people don't understand or want to prove their great and superior mma status.
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Where do you get some of these guys????????? Rampage says it was one of the best fights he's seen in a long time and Dana says it's a great fight. It was a great fight and both of these guys fought their butts off. Overtraining was a issue on Forrest's team as each fighter week to week continues to gas. They all came to the show in great shape and Forrest broke them down with his insame training sessions.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:59 AM   #15 (permalink)

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Not sure what the problem with these guys is. It was a good fight in that neither guy quit and they were both giving it 100%, but being light in the gas tank seems to be a real issue this season.

Maybe we need another corner man like Serra to keep telling them "you're breathin' and you're breathin' and you're relaxed ...".
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:01 AM   #16 (permalink)

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Rampages breakdown was hilarious.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:07 AM   #17 (permalink)

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cramers got a chin, and hes young. he may have a good future if he gets with a good team.
he trains with ATT danbury, ct. I trained out there a year ago and that kid was non stop. wierd to see him gas like that
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:24 AM   #18 (permalink)

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This fight was horrible It looked more like the last minutes of a drunken bar room brawl than an MMA bout. The worst part about it was Dana calling it a WAR. No it wasn't. These guys have the best records in the house and did the worst job so far.

I declare Gravity the winner of this fight.

In the end Cramer wasn't really ground-and-pounding Luke, he was just lifting his fists and letting them fall back down on Luke's face.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:37 AM   #19 (permalink)

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Am I in the minority that thinks both fighters showed some mental and physical toughness, even though their boxing and bjj was sort of off last night?

Advanced mma skills can be developed with further training, but mental and physical toughness is something you either have, or you don't.

Both of those guys showed way more fight than Dante.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:43 AM   #20 (permalink)

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I thought it was a very entertaining fight, possibly the funniest I've ever seen - my respect goes to both fighters though. They gave it 100%.

I'm also puzzled at how badly some of these guys are gassing. If the gassing is to be blamed on Forrest's overtraining, why are Rampage's fighters gassing too?
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