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Old 05-15-2008, 01:54 AM   #41 (permalink)

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and there is no excuse for talking trash to a guy like forrest
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:16 AM   #42 (permalink)

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I didn't see it that way, he got pissed and it showed him in another room right after the whole thing and he was definitely angry.

Rampage said a lot of that shit when he was walking away, what's Forrest going to do, lol run after him?

I don't think he acted scared at all. It's going to be a great fight, though I expect Rampage to win.

Rampage better not underestimate Forrest though.
We'll have to see how the next episode plays out, but this is the first time I have seen some real anger on Forrest's part. I think he is already one of the most passionate and committed fighters out there, but think of him with some Rampage style anger. Maybe Forrest's demeanor is as much a defense as a weapon. Surely he uses his humor to diffuse situations and get people to overlook him, but maybe he has some real internal conflict going on. Maybe getting shit on by Schultz was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Consider how fighters are easily able to dismiss criticism from keyboard warriors, but what of a fellow fighter. Schultz was a man who lost twice to competitors considered weak. He has watched Forrest's excellent coaching pick of Page's guys one by one. And being part of TUF he should respect how integral to this whole thing Forrest is (Really is there any other fighter who is even close to being as important as Forrest for TUF). And then this guy calls out Forrest!? You think a fighter would respect not only what he has done as a fighter, but the wars he has waged (Griffin-Bonnar I and II, Griffin-Tito, and Griffin-Shogun), the contributions to TUF, being the single most important fighter to the modern-era UFC, and the contributions to assholes like Schultz, who are riding the wave of popularity of MMA and TUF.

We all know Forrest fights with great heart and emotion, but I wonder what happens if we get to see a little anger. In any case, I am excited to see the next episode.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:23 AM   #43 (permalink)

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Why not? It was a heat of the moment thing, I didn't see anything wrong with it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:11 AM   #44 (permalink)

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Amir has a lot of potential in my opinion. Very talented, well rounded striker(not surprising for his kickboxing backround.) His ground game is pretty bad, but he did manage to get to his feet to his credit. The thing I liked the most is that when he did he went balls out as soon as he got up. Most strikers with limited ground game/TD defense are very hesitant. He went for it.

Also seems like a very likeable cat.

War Amir.

Oh and for anyone questioning the stoppage, you don't know wtf you're talking about. Kid got rocked, dropped, then went into a fetal position whilst getting pounded repeatedly. I don't care if he was concious at the stoppage. The refs job is not to wait for a guy to go unconcious.
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:16 AM   #45 (permalink)

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Schultz talking crap to Forrest was hilarious and pathetic. Sounded like a sulky little baby who obviously was way out of his league in terms of who he talked to.

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Man, what a terrible, terrible episode.

Amazing things:

- Harris' 2 slams especially the first one
- The ref telling Harris to improve his position and then stopping the fight half a second later.
- Mazz allowed an entire round of LnP in the Schultz/Yarbrough fight. An entire round of LnP and there's only 2 rounds...
- The refs allowed a lot of LnP in both fights. Way, way too much. There might only be 2 rounds, so the refs should be quicker to stand them up for stalling, but the refs did nothing.
- Schultz won the first round, but somehow got screwed out of a third round. Man, Mazz really screwed Schultz in that fight. The judges didn't help either.
- Griffin was talking his fighter up like he wanted nothing to do with the ground, but what did he do? I guess he didn't have a choice since he was getting his ass handed to him in the first round.
- Team Rampage gets screwed some more...

Who's judging these fights, Ray Charles?
It's not that strange that the ref stopped it early after saying something since if someone drops and just lays there it can be dangerous for them. It might have been a bit too fast, I didn't see exactly how well the punches afterwards connected due to the bad angles.
You don't stand people up when the guy on top throws as many punches and elbows as Yarbrough did. Do you make up your own rulebook? Not even Rampage complained for a second about that round and there's even a small possibility that it could have been a 10:8 round since Schultz had nothing in that round (hence no third round).
It's also clear that the takedowns and the number of punches Yarbrough had there in the first could be enough to steal that round so it was not very shocking if you know how judges look at things.

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Old 05-15-2008, 07:05 AM   #46 (permalink)

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Seriously, it's not Yarborough's fault that Schultz had no idea how to escape a weak half guard and it's not Mazz's job to get Pat out of it as long as Cale is trying to deal damage and is moving position.

Think the fight was boring? Blame it on the guy with no jits that was getting beaten on.
I think the original guy that used the phrase "lay n pray artist" in this thread was talking about Gerald Harris. Which is ridiculous.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:17 AM   #47 (permalink)

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I was extremely impressed with Amir's will to stand back up each and every time he was taken down. THAT is how you're supposed to do it when fighting a wrestler. You MUST keep trying to get back to your fucking feet. Most guys will just lay there and practically give up, but this fucker kept getting up, over and over again. Never willing to stay on his back for too long. That is why he won the fight and that is why he deserved to win the fight. Took a lot of heart and a lot of balls. That was pure will and dedication that won him that fight. Very impressive.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:30 AM   #48 (permalink)

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i don't think theres too much hate between rampage and forrest like we were led to believe. so far all thats happened was rampage said he bets their fight doesnt go to a decision and judging by the clip from next weeks show it looks like they're just goofing around when forrest shoots rampage with the net gun, which actually looks like a pretty funny episode. i was expecting them to almost get in a fight on the show, and they might, who knows whats gonna happen, but it doesn't seem as extreme as the tito/shamrock feud, no matter how much dana and the shows producers are trying to make it.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:38 AM   #49 (permalink)

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I was impressed that Amir kept getting up. The stoppage was early IMO....Harris clearly got rocked but grabbed a single when he went down....He should have been given a little time to recover. Amir didn't hit him with brutal shots after he went down.....oh well.
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The stoppage was early and I felt bad for Harris but in that position he would have taken more and more punches and it would gotten to a point where it would have been a good decision. He made a mistake to rest in such a bad position and paid for it, such is MMA.
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