[GroundNPound]

There is definitely stud fodder again this year.

[Holla-atcha-boy]

Originally Posted by ShoulderChoke

Tim Credeurs credentials....

*Black belt under world champion Rodrigo Medeiros (Carlson Gracie)

*Judo black belt under John Michaels (All Navy Judo Coach)

*Tim has achieved over 40 Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Championships

*To name a few- three time US OPEN JIU JITSU CHAMPION 1998,1999, and 2001

*Ouano International Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Champion 2000, and 2001

*Two time American International Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Champion 2000 and 2001

*JUDO-Nanka Speed Harada Judo Champion 1999

*Maruchen Cup Judo Champion 1999

*West Covina Invitational Judo Champion 1999

*NHB-Eruption Extreme Fighting 2003 (185 lb. Champion)

*Amateur NHB Challenge Champion 1997 and 1998 (Under 200 Lbs.)

*Rage In The Cage Champion 2000 (205 lb. Champion)

Don't forget that he helps the following fighters prepare for their ground game, and is good friends with them:
Rich Clementi
Yves Edwards
Alan Belcher
Kyle Bradley

[EKyello]

The sad thing is, 185 is probably the most top-heavy division outside of the UFC, other than HW.

Lawler, Kang, Filho, Lindland, Frank, Trigg, Misaki.

It isn't as deep as maybe LW or WW, where it is really tight from like 5-20 with guys who could legitimately contend for #1 within a year. But all 5 of those guys could be legit #1 contenders (with the exception of maybe Kang).

[EKyello]

Originally Posted by Here

Whats the point of listing their UFC record of 0-0, its clear none of them would have been in it before.

Joe Lauzon went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1, Gabe Ruediger went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1. Those are the only guys I could think of off the top of my head with UFC experience (excluding TUF4 where the point was to bring back UFC vets).

[Blitz55]

What the hell was that Reff doing in that Jeremiah Riggs fight.
Looked like he was trying to put a mouthpiece back in, but he was not looking after the fighter getting choked out at all. Kid had to bang on the canvas to get the reffs attention.

Great thread TS

[Blitz55]

Originally Posted by EKyello

Joe Lauzon went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1, Gabe Ruediger went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1. Those are the only guys I could think of off the top of my head with UFC experience (excluding TUF4 where the point was to bring back UFC vets).

Didn't Joe beat Pulver in the UFC before that?

[couture]

what is with all this "Team Jorge Gurgel" stuff????

[ShoulderChoke]

Originally Posted by EKyello

The sad thing is, 185 is probably the most top-heavy division outside of the UFC, other than HW.

Lawler, Kang, Filho, Lindland, Frank, Trigg, Misaki.

It isn't as deep as maybe LW or WW, where it is really tight from like 5-20 with guys who could legitimately contend for #1 within a year. But all 5 of those guys could be legit #1 contenders (with the exception of maybe Kang).

There is no way in hell Lawler, Trigg, or Misaki are legit #1 contenders. They are all very strong, but are in noway at the top of the heap.
Also, you forgot Akiyama. He is more deserving than the four I just listed.

[ShoulderChoke]

Originally Posted by EKyello

Joe Lauzon went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1, Gabe Ruediger went on TUF with a UFC record of 0-1. Those are the only guys I could think of off the top of my head with UFC experience (excluding TUF4 where the point was to bring back UFC vets).

Lauzon was 1-0. Also, Matt Wiman was 0-1 (Losing to Fisher by KO)

[ShoulderChoke]

Originally Posted by Holla-atcha-boy

Don't forget that he helps the following fighters prepare for their ground game, and is good friends with them:
Rich Clementi
Yves Edwards
Alan Belcher
Kyle Bradley

Rich and Yves both have very very slick BJJ. Rich has won alot of No Gi BJJ tourneys.

Belcher and Bradley are slowly-but-surely developing their ground game. But last time I checked, Belcher was training his BJJ with Helio Sonneca.