[bird1965]

Where is the Libertarian Party? With the US going downhill it seems like this Party would step up and get their ideas out on TV infomercials or something similar. But you never hear of the LP on TV or even see them debating the Big 2. Really all the Libertarian party has to do is say the Dems/Repubs both suck Vote for us and they would get millions of Votes. I just don't get why the 3rd largest Political party in America is being so quiet at this time when Americans need more choices for political office. Just like the time was right for the Repub Party to step up in 1860 it is now time for a 3rd Party to step up. If not the LP then who?

[TheMMAn]

The lib party is notoriously weak on national security and any possible war on terror. Any debates with the lib party on a national platform typically degrades into the "legalize drugs"debate in a hurry.

[ChiefStrategist]

Originally Posted by bird1965

Where is the Libertarian Party? With the US going downhill it seems like this Party would step up and get their ideas out on TV infomercials or something similar. But you never hear of the LP on TV or even see them debating the Big 2. Really all the Libertarian party has to do is say the Dems/Repubs both suck Vote for us and they would get millions of Votes. I just don't get why the 3rd largest Political party in America is being so quiet at this time when Americans need more choices for political office. Just like the time was right for the Repub Party to step up in 1860 it is now time for a 3rd Party to step up. If not the LP then who?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

While Dems and Reps wrestle for power, they have a common enemy in the LP, and nothing brings those two parties closer together than the thought of losing power to someone other than each other.

Not only that, but the LP campaigns on the most ridiculous shit, and it seems they throw out the looniest batshit crazy guy out to vote for. I believe if they could get a candidate who focuses more on the economy, the war, social security, etc....and presents the platform in an eloquent common sense approach...and leave the drug legalization and issues like it on the back burner they would get more accomplished.

[ChiefStrategist]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

The lib party is notoriously weak on national security and any possible war on terror. Any debates with the lib party on a national platform typically degrades into the "legalize drugs"debate in a hurry.

I think a new breed of Libertarian is beginning to emerge with the presence of Neal Boortz and Larry Elder spouting of a hybrid Republitarian. While I cannot give a politican example of this.....they hold the social values of libertarianism, but understand the need to take some people out

[bird1965]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

The lib party is notoriously weak on national security and any possible war on terror. Any debates with the lib party on a national platform typically degrades into the "legalize drugs"debate in a hurry.

yes their Open border policy is going to turn some away but there has to be Libertarian candidates who disagree with that view. Also with an infomercial the Libs would control what was being talked about. Perot was very successful with the infomercial route and some other Party could also do the same. If the Oreck guy can afford infomercials I am sure the Libertarian Party can also afford them. By the Libertarians being so silent it is hurting the political debate and making the Libs appear to be a fringe group and weak.

[bird1965]

Originally Posted by ChiefStrategist

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

While Dems and Reps wrestle for power, they have a common enemy in the LP, and nothing brings those two parties closer together than the thought of losing power to someone other than each other.

Not only that, but the LP campaigns on the most ridiculous shit, and it seems they throw out the looniest batshit crazy guy out to vote for. I believe if they could get a candidate who focuses more on the economy, the war, social security, etc....and presents the platform in an eloquent common sense approach...and leave the drug legalization and issues like it on the back burner they would get more accomplished.

"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" rarely works after all the people who said that the most the American Indians got almost wiped out. Agree with your 3rd paragraph.

[USAMMAFAN]

the two main parties always end up incorporating the popular postions of 3rd parties into their platforms anyway

[bird1965]

Originally Posted by ChiefStrategist

I think a new breed of Libertarian is beginning to emerge with the presence of Neal Boortz and Larry Elder spouting of a hybrid Republitarian. While I cannot give a politican example of this.....they hold the social values of libertarianism, but understand the need to take some people out

That is exactly the wrong way to take Libertarianism. Corporate Repub types are not Libertarians.

[bird1965]

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

the two main parties always end up incorporating the popular postions of 3rd parties into their platforms anyway

Then why is drug legalization never talked about by the Big 2? It seems like it is more of the Big 2 shutting down the debate to any outsider. The last Presidential debate had 2 Parties and the next Presidential debate will have 2 parties. Not a whole lot of choice in the greatest Democracy on earth.

[ChiefStrategist]

Originally Posted by bird1965

That is exactly the wrong way to take Libertarianism. Corporate Repub types are not Libertarians.

Bird, you cannot clump everyone together by saying "X is not a libertarian because he doesn't agree with A, B, and C"

Much like Dems, Reps, Communists, Socialists, and every other political ideology there are progressive and fundamentalists mixed in. You stick with what you believe and you make adjustments to your platform accordingly. Boortz and Elder are as Libertarian as you are, only they may have a different vision, as do I. And quite frankly, either one of those two would make a better poltician than what we have now.