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Old 05-15-2008, 07:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why so many American troops have PTSD?

1 in 8 soldiers returning home to the U.S. from Iraq and Afganistan have symtoms of post tramatic stress disorder. More soldires are experiencing PTSD than in any previous war, why is this war creating so many cases of PTSD?
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:04 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Where are you getting that number?
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I would GUESS that there is a much broader definition of PTSD then in the past....
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maybe soldires in previous wars fought for more noble causes, which would cause them to feel less symptoms of PTSD
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I think it has more to do with the diagnosis of PTSD. My grandfather never was diagnosed when he came back from WWII and a friend of mine never was after Nam. They refuse to talk about anything except how awful the food was. PTSD? Maybe. I haven't sat in on what constitutes a correct diagnosis or not.

It's not that these men and women haven't been through hell. I believe that they have and that PTSD is real and is a problem. It's just that we are encountering it now and when it used to be "shell shock" the symptoms were put into two categories: "severe" and "who cares?"
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Where are you getting that number?
somewhat legit source MSNBC
1 in 8 returning soldiers suffers from PTSD - Mental health - MSNBC.com
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I think it has more to do with the diagnosis of PTSD. My grandfather never was diagnosed when he came back from WWII and a friend of mine never was after Nam. They refuse to talk about anything except how awful the food was. PTSD? Maybe. I haven't sat in on what constitutes a correct diagnosis or not.

It's not that these men and women haven't been through hell. I believe that they have and that PTSD is real and is a problem. It's just that we are encountering it now and when it used to be "shell shock" the symptoms were put into two categories: "severe" and "who cares?"
I think you are right. There are probably many degrees of intensity of the symptoms that range from mild to severe. I'm glad vets that have a problem and need help are getting attention. I'm concerned that their problem - which is a likely consequence of any war or phyical trauma - is being exploited by the liberals for their own ends. The vets become victims twice in that case.

I know and have met several guys who have done tours in "the sandbox" (Iraq) and Afghanistan. Some are off to their 3rd tour. A story that hasn't been getting reported is how the hundreds of thousands of men and women cycling through their tours are coming back with a much greater appreciation for the exceptionalism of the United States, and an appreciation of many things they had taken for granted before - family, friends, security, prosperity, freedom, etc., etc., that has bolstered their feelings in the face of the negatives of being in a war.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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About 10% of the world currently suffers from a "mental health disorder," according to the psychiatrists. 1 out of 3 experiences a mental health disorder in their life ... again, according to psychiatrists.

Mental disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Recognized mental health disorders have proliferated from about 50, in the middle of the last century, to over 300 nowadays, and growing. In short, the main issue is a massive proliferation of psychiatric diagnosis, with so many disorders and such ridiculously vague symptoms that it's almost impossible for people not to fall under them.
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Longer tours of duty, harsh conditions of warfare, and a weaker overall society, IMO.
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I think it has more to do with the diagnosis of PTSD. My grandfather never was diagnosed when he came back from WWII and a friend of mine never was after Nam. They refuse to talk about anything except how awful the food was. PTSD? Maybe. I haven't sat in on what constitutes a correct diagnosis or not.

It's not that these men and women haven't been through hell. I believe that they have and that PTSD is real and is a problem. It's just that we are encountering it now and when it used to be "shell shock" the symptoms were put into two categories: "severe" and "who cares?"
I think this sums it up pretty well. There is no time in history when psychological analysis was as prevalent as it is now.
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