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Old 09-06-2008, 04:18 PM   #21 (permalink)

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So, you're balancing lies with more lies? Pure class.
This is the state of American politics.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #22 (permalink)

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The one thing I think You can't assail McCain about is his military service. Sure he was a shitty pilot, crashing 5 birds... but what do you expect for a guy at the bottom of his class.

It's his compete reversal and abandonment of his ideals that made him interesting 8 years ago that make him a phony, pandering piece of shit.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The one thing I think You can't assail McCain about is his military service. Sure he was a shitty pilot, crashing 5 birds... but what do you expect for a guy at the bottom of his class.

It's his compete reversal and abandonment of his ideals that made him interesting 8 years ago that make him a phony, pandering piece of shit.
I would hate to live in a fantasy world of pessimism like you do
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Sure he was a shitty pilot, crashing 5 birds... but what do you expect for a guy at the bottom of his class.
You guys love to harp on this. I'll give you three are debatable, but saying he crashed five is complete bullshit.

#4 he was just sitting in his plane on the deck of his aircraft carrier when he was hit with a rocket from one of the other planes. That is definitely not a "crash".

#5 he was shot down by enemy fire. If getting shot down makes you a crappy pilot then I guess the Red Baron was a crappy pilot too.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:05 PM   #25 (permalink)

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I would hate to live in a fantasy world of pessimism like you do

I would hate to live in your fantasy world where you have FATHEADS© of John McCain and GW Bush on your wall next your bed.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:22 PM   #26 (permalink)

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1. Stop trashing our military and spitting on them. They deserve your respect. Even if you disagree with McCain, respect his sacrifice. He deserves that much.
Is the respect for the military and pointing out its flaws and some scumbags serving in it somehow mutually exclusive?

And they were murderers at My Lai.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:30 PM   #27 (permalink)

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What do you mean "us" people, are you talking about the veterans who hate his guts?

I am just posting what it's out there to balance the lies about Obama you seem to have no problem with.

I'm talking about the idiots that let politics cause them to smear a man's name when even the ultra left agree that McCain is a Hero, even if they don't agree politically with him. If you are one of those people then yes I'm calling you disgusting too.

I called out the idiots who said they wouldn't vote for "Husein" Obama. I don't agree with Obama's politics but his name has nothing to do with that. I've not been crazy about McCain. I actually told someone, if I vote this year it will be for VP. And I believe Mrs. Palin will get my vote.

I'm not sure what lies about Obama are out there. Care to share? It is kind of hard to tell since the MSM refuse to ask him anything or do any reports on him that aren't fawning love fest. As right wing as FOX is, they are the only ones who've done any report on Obama's background - and no it wasn't an attack piece.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:41 PM   #28 (permalink)

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The one thing I think You can't assail McCain about is his military service. Sure he was a shitty pilot, crashing 5 birds... but what do you expect for a guy at the bottom of his class.
Well, he crashed twice and was shot down once, but sure 5 sounds better.

Do you have any idea how you are ranked in military school? Grades play a part but it isn't like your GPA is the only thing that matters. ps, Didn't Grant finish pretty low in his class?
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ps, Didn't Grant finish pretty low in his class?
21 out of 39.
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21 out of 39.

middle of the pack. I bet someone he graduated with remembered him though. Unlike Obama's class mates at Columbia.
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