[AZ BJJ]

So, I only made it halfway through this video before I had to stop.

Let me get this straight, he was a drug dealing hillbilly who after, September 11th, was looked at funny because he's a darker shade of White? GTFO. I pretty much knew at that moment that he was an idiot. When he said that he was given orders to kill all civilians, it was confirmed. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone above some shit for brains private would ever say something like that. I'd be interested to hear from some of the other Iraqi Freedom combat vets on Sherdog about this one.

[SMEAC]

You stupid fucks are actually going to latch on to this stupid fuck?

[Bill Baker]

Originally Posted by AZ BJJ

So, I only made it halfway through this video before I had to stop.

Let me get this straight, he was a drug dealing hillbilly who after, September 11th, was looked at funny because he's a darker shade of White? GTFO. I pretty much knew at that moment that he was an idiot. When he said that he was given orders to kill all civilians, it was confirmed. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone above some shit for brains private would ever say something like that. I'd be interested to hear from some of the other Iraqi Freedom combat vets on Sherdog about this one.

THIS IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF CONFIRMATION BIAS.

[Bill Baker]

Originally Posted by Jin-Roh

I have more respect for the soldier that risks the ostracism of his friends, family, community, and country for something he believes in than the soldier who murders simply to save himself from shame.

Tim O'Brien, a Vietnam vet, said it best in his book The Things They Carried, in which he considered running to Canada, but:
"My conscience told me to run, but some irrational and powerful force was resisting, like a weight pushing me toward the war. What it came down to, stupidly, was a sense of shame."

"I was a coward. I went to the war."

very interesting perspective, i must admit

[FoxTrot9R]

Originally Posted by Jin-Roh

I have more respect for the soldier that risks the ostracism of his friends, family, community, and country for something he believes in than the soldier who murders simply to save himself from shame.

Tim O'Brien, a Vietnam vet, said it best in his book The Things They Carried, in which he considered running to Canada, but:
"My conscience told me to run, but some irrational and powerful force was resisting, like a weight pushing me toward the war. What it came down to, stupidly, was a sense of shame."

"I was a coward. I went to the war."

I find this funny. What it came down to was not a sense of shame. It was courage. I give the man all the props ion the world, for fighting. My father is a veteran, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for those men ( and women, I guess Id better be PC.). But to turn around many years later and try to say that his decision to go to war was cowardice is preposterious. He knows that when he went to the service it took huge stones. Time has obviously changed his outlook, and thats fine. He can choose to spin it to fit his current agenda, but any soldier will tell you that being a coward does not make you stay and fight, facing a real possibility of death.

[Jin-Roh]

Originally Posted by FoxTrot9R

I find this funny. What it came down to was not a sense of shame. It was courage. I give the man all the props ion the world, for fighting. My father is a veteran, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for those men ( and women, I guess Id better be PC.). But to turn around many years later and try to say that his decision to go to war was cowardice is preposterious. He knows that when he went to the service it took huge stones. Time has obviously changed his outlook, and thats fine. He can choose to spin it to fit his current agenda, but any soldier will tell you that being a coward does not make you stay and fight, facing a real possibility of death.

So you're telling me you know his own mind better than himself? And why do you consider being goaded into risking your life for something you don't believe to be bravery?

[evansusmc2]

Originally Posted by whiskeyyy

Sounds like somebody doesn't support the troops!

I do support the troops. Just not troops that go AWOL, grow a beard, and start talking spewing propaganda like the guy in the video posted in this thread.

[Ezra Pound]

Originally Posted by JSN

did you guys see "iraq for sale?" (it's free on comcast on demand)

this one soldier was talking about how he had to train kellogg brown employees how o do his job (he repaired electronics i blieve), and then dig ditches and clean shitboxes when they were ready to replace him (no doubt at about 5x the salary).

Yeah I saw that, the corruption is so in your face these days, I dont get it. What is the limit for people? Cutting off your arm to feed the snarling hordes?

[Ezra Pound]

Originally Posted by Jin-Roh

So you're telling me you know his own mind better than himself? And why do you consider being goaded into risking your life for something you don't believe to be bravery?

His love of militarism and the image put forth in it's name has blinded him. He can't say it, so I will.

[Ezra Pound]

Originally Posted by SMEAC

You stupid fucks are actually going to latch on to this stupid fuck?

How bout this one? YouTube - americans kicking around iraqis head 'like soccer ball' clip