[Toujourpret]

Originally Posted by Bill Baker

i see wat ur saying but idk how many ppl realize how RACIST this ideology of US Supremacy is in context of the video.

If anyone has seen how Americans act in foreign countries it is not really a surprise. Ive seen the "ugly American" quite often in my travels. Its embarassing.

[evansusmc2]

Screw that sissy propaganda spewing bearded bitch.

[M.o.A]

Nice post styles.

[7wtc911]

Originally Posted by stylesbjj

LiveLeak.com - US Soldier Speaks Out Against Iraq War

I wonder what he means by '9/11 is a lie'. Is he saying that 9/11 never happened, or the rational e of using 9/11 to go into Iraq is a lie.

"We will NEVER forget!" was the theme quickly following the horrible September 11, 2001 attack. We were lied to from the beginning. We have either been lied to or not told the truth about the Air Quality at Ground Zero, Bin Laden, WTC 7, The Pentagon/flight 77, 9/11 in general, among other things. It's 7 years later and the majority of people have everything on their mind besides the specific attack that day on America. Perhaps because it is not the most pleasant thing to keep in mind, or maybe because they are busy watching "American Gladiators" on TV, or maybe some other reason. Anything that cast's doubt on the governments account is usually dubbed as a "conspiracy theory" and therefore inherently illogical. Although the official account is a "conspiracy theory", many engage in double think by not recognizing the official account as a conspiracy(crime committed by two or more individuals) theory (something that explains or predicts facts or events). The following information that I am about to present is not opinion, only fact.



1) Air was NOT safe to breathe: there are still MANY rescue workers who are sick and dying from exposure to toxic dust that was at ground zero. Even though we were assured by our government that the air was "safe to breathe".

"Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink," U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, September 18, 2001.

360 post-9/11 workers have died, including 80 of cancer, says state May 8th 2008
"It's the tip of the iceberg," said David Worby, who is representing 10,000 workers - 600 with cancer - who say they got sick after working on rescue and recovery efforts.



2) Bin Laden Wanted
Despite popular belief that Bin Laden is a "wanted" man for the attacks(that's what we were told immediately following the attacks). There still has not been a formal indictment for his role, if any. Yes if, any. FBI's #1 Most Wanted Terrorist. As you can see, it is a FACT that there is NO mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's FBI "most wanted" page. Why has he not been formally accused? Despite what "you" may have believed to be true and credible evidence.
Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden


3) Unexplained Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7: 47 stories tall, located one block from wtc complex- one football field distance from WTC 1, Offices inside include: Department of Defense (DOD), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Secret Service (SS), Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM), Salomon Smith Barney, American Express Bank International, and more.

Here are the only three official government explanations: 9/11 Commission;Federal Emergency Management Agency; National Institute of Standards and Technology
9/11 Commission Report: Not ONE word of it in the 567 page report

FEMA Report: The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain UNKNOWN at this time.[Ch. 5, p. 31.]

NIST Report: No answer yet. Have NOT yet reached a conclusion. They only have a “working HYPOTHESIS,” which is much different than a CONCLUSION.[Question 14] They were supposed to have reached a conclusion in early 2007 but now predict a report in July, 2008.

http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_deck.jpg
http://www.national911memorial.org/v...al/wtc_map.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/LD06SAf0p9A&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/FORhPR-5qWQ&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y5_e5yROoqY&hl=en



4) The Pentagon Video Tapes: are there only 2 video tapes???Both that only show an unclear OBJECT, not a distinguishable AIRLINER
How can any off course hijacked commercial airliner enter restricted and highly defended airspace 51 minutes after the 1st plane hits the 1st tower and 34 minutes after the 2nd plane hits the 2nd tower. It then punches one hole in a straight trajectory on the 1st floor of the pentagon, through 6 pentagon walls (exit c-ring) that are heavily reinforced concrete?
http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/Attack%20Path.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/PentagonRings.jpg
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/exit2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/-PsEWyrKQqw&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/yCTLqtev9f4&hl=en

[Bill Baker]

Originally Posted by 7wtc911

We were lied to from the beginning. We have either been lied to or not told the truth about the Air Quality at Ground Zero, Bin Laden, WTC 7, The Pentagon/flight 77, 9/11 in general, among other things. Here are a few:

1) Air was NOT safe to breathe: there are still MANY rescue workers who are sick and dying from exposure to toxic dust that was at ground zero. Even though we were assured by our government that the air was "safe to breathe".

"Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink," U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, September 18, 2001.

360 post-9/11 workers have died, including 80 of cancer, says state May 8th 2008
"It's the tip of the iceberg," said David Worby, who is representing 10,000 workers - 600 with cancer - who say they got sick after working on rescue and recovery efforts.



2) Bin Laden Wanted
Despite popular belief that Bin Laden is a "wanted" man for the attacks(that's what we were told immediately following the attacks). There still has not been a formal indictment for his role, if any. Yes if, any. FBI's #1 Most Wanted Terrorist. As you can see, it is a FACT that there is NO mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's FBI "most wanted" page. Why has he not been formally accused? Despite what "you" may have believed to be true and credible evidence.
Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden


3) Unexplained Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7: 47 stories tall, located one block from wtc complex- one football field distance from WTC 1, Offices inside include: Department of Defense (DOD), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Secret Service (SS), Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), New York City Office of Emergency Management (OEM), Salomon Smith Barney, American Express Bank International, and more.

Here are the only three official government explanations: 9/11 Commission;Federal Emergency Management Agency; National Institute of Standards and Technology
9/11 Commission Report: Not ONE word of it in the 567 page report

FEMA Report: The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain UNKNOWN at this time.[Ch. 5, p. 31.]

NIST Report: No answer yet. Have NOT yet reached a conclusion. They only have a “working HYPOTHESIS,” which is much different than a CONCLUSION.[Question 14] They were supposed to have reached a conclusion in early 2007 but now predict a report in July, 2008.

http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/World...11Picture1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_deck.jpg
http://www.national911memorial.org/v...al/wtc_map.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/LD06SAf0p9A&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/FORhPR-5qWQ&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y5_e5yROoqY&hl=en



4) The Pentagon Video Tapes: are there only 2 video tapes???Both that only show an unclear OBJECT, not a distinguishable AIRLINER
How can any off course hijacked commercial airliner enter restricted and highly defended airspace 51 minutes after the 1st plane hits the 1st tower and 34 minutes after the 2nd plane hits the 2nd tower. It then punches one hole in a straight trajectory on the 1st floor of the pentagon, through 6 pentagon walls (exit c-ring) that are heavily reinforced concrete?
http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/Attack%20Path.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/PentagonRings.jpg
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/exit2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/-PsEWyrKQqw&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/v/yCTLqtev9f4&hl=en

u shud start a new thread with this post alone and hte mods shud sticky it

[7wtc911]

Originally Posted by Bill Baker

u shud start a new thread with this post alone and hte mods shud sticky it

Consider it done!

[whiskeyyy]

Originally Posted by evansusmc2

Screw that sissy propaganda spewing bearded bitch.

Sounds like somebody doesn't support the troops!

[Lubaolong]

So the whole video was about how people should give him and his friends money for deserting?

[Sanin]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

So the whole video was about how people should give him and his friends money for deserting?

I think the idea behind his message was the soldiers were doing a brave and patriotic thing by deserting, and in response the American public ignores them.

[Jin-Roh]

I have more respect for the soldier that risks the ostracism of his friends, family, community, and country for something he believes in than the soldier who murders simply to save himself from shame.

Tim O'Brien, a Vietnam vet, said it best in his book The Things They Carried, in which he considered running to Canada, but:
"My conscience told me to run, but some irrational and powerful force was resisting, like a weight pushing me toward the war. What it came down to, stupidly, was a sense of shame."

"I was a coward. I went to the war."