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Old 05-11-2008, 03:08 PM   #41 (permalink)

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i agree with most of what you guys are saying... yes it is brave to stand up for what you believe in... thats not what this guy did. this guy signed ont he dotted line AFTER we had invaded iraq... then, like a chicken shit, backed out.... and FLED to canada in FEAR of reprecussion. COWARD. had he stood up for what he believed in and stayed in this country and faced the consequences for the decisions he made, that would be another story, he wouldn't be a deserter....
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:59 PM   #42 (permalink)

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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The difference is we don't intentionally target innocent civillians.
In 2007 elite U.S. snipers executed an unarmed Iraqi prisoner in cold blood. Have the insidious tactics that led to atrocities in Vietnam reemerged in Iraq?

By Mark Benjamin and Christopher Weaver

May 9, 2008 | Genei Nesir Khudair al-Janabi, an Iraqi vegetable farmer, walked down to the ramshackle pump house along the banks of the Euphrates. Each day at midmorning, he would start the seven-horsepower pump to water his crops.

Khudair passed through the tall grass and palm trees of his farm in Jurf as Sakhr, a predominantly Sunni area 30 miles south of Baghdad dominated by sprawling patches of farmland, irrigation canals and regular eruptions of lethal violence. Daytime temperatures had lately been over 115 degrees, and it was already sweltering as he crossed the 500 meters for the last time.

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A review of thousands of pages of documents from the legal proceedings obtained by Salon shows that in the months prior to Khudair's death, the young snipers, already frustrated by guerrilla tactics, were pressed to their physical limits and pushed by officers to stretch the bounds of the laws of war in order to increase the enemy body count.

Snipers in Iraq | Salon News
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:27 AM   #44 (permalink)
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US targetted civilian infrasturcture, namely waste treatment plants in the firts gulf war...

it then pushed through the harshest sanctions in history which prevent the repair of said plants...

= disease

resulting in hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilian deaths wich could have been avoided IF sanctions would let through the needed medicine+materils to repair the plants
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:45 AM   #45 (permalink)

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Question: What is the difference between what happened to the US on 911, and what the US does to other countries with cruise missles?


OK, I've said this when I was in High school (Before 9/11). That our country would eventually get attacked....by means and measure I wasn't sure but I knew one day something like 9/11 would happen.

It's just like I don't give America another 200 years of existence, Every great empire falls...it's as simple as that. And if you disagree Go look at Rome, England, Etc. Etc.

I Don't hate my country...I'm just looking at things realistically
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