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Old 05-11-2008, 07:04 AM   #31 (permalink)

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he is no coward nd u hav no rite to call him 1

he is standing up to wat he believes in, that the US govt is unjustly attacking Iraq and orders are given to also attack Iraqi Civilians

how do u know that what he said are lies? u rather not believe in something that dosnt fit ur worldview and therefore live in denial
he deserted his country durring a time of war... that means he is a traitor, a coward, and a worm of a man... he can go ahead and protest all he wants... good for him, but deserting your country in a time of war is an unforgivable act of cowardice and it is punishable by death under th Uniform Code of Military Justice... this guy could be killed for what he has done... and he and those like him should be.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:47 AM   #32 (permalink)

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let me summarize the first 30 secs of that video. "hi, I am a crack dealer who works part time at mcdonalds. I did not and do not care about the 3000 of my fellow Americans who were killed on sept. 11th. I have too many things to worry about while slinging rocks to care about other people's problems. I joined the military because I owed the wrong people a lot of money. When it came time for me to fulfill my contract, I pussed out and ran away. You should pay me for being such a good man."
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:20 AM   #33 (permalink)

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let me summarize the first 30 secs of that video. "hi, I am a crack dealer who works part time at mcdonalds. I did not and do not care about the 3000 of my fellow Americans who were killed on sept. 11th. I have too many things to worry about while slinging rocks to care about other people's problems. I joined the military because I owed the wrong people a lot of money. When it came time for me to fulfill my contract, I pussed out and ran away. You should pay me for being such a good man."
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:23 AM   #34 (permalink)
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For starters, we attack military targets. 9/11 was a cowardly attack on civilians.
Yeah because the US has never targeted civilians.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:50 AM   #35 (permalink)
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he deserted his country durring a time of war... that means he is a traitor, a coward, and a worm of a man... he can go ahead and protest all he wants... good for him, but deserting your country in a time of war is an unforgivable act of cowardice and it is punishable by death under th Uniform Code of Military Justice... this guy could be killed for what he has done... and he and those like him should be.
seems like u didn get the gist of the video

he didnt 'desert his country in the time of war' he realized the CAUSE and PURPOSE of the war was FALSE and UNHONORABLE

rather than blindly killin iraqis he realizd that the whole thing dosnt make sense

if IRAQIS invaded the US and if he were to desert the country rather than defending it, than he would be a coward

so firstly, he questions the integrity of the war

secondly, its offensive and not at all defensive

also, considering the UNDERLINED (he cud be killed) and the fact that he STILL refuses to fight and protest instead, shows he is NOT A COWARD.

ppl love attackin the messenger cuz they cant find holes in the message
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:28 AM   #36 (permalink)

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seems like u didn get the gist of the video

he didnt 'desert his country in the time of war' he realized the CAUSE and PURPOSE of the war was FALSE and UNHONORABLE

rather than blindly killin iraqis he realizd that the whole thing dosnt make sense

if IRAQIS invaded the US and if he were to desert the country rather than defending it, than he would be a coward

so firstly, he questions the integrity of the war

secondly, its offensive and not at all defensive

also, considering the UNDERLINED (he cud be killed) and the fact that he STILL refuses to fight and protest instead, shows he is NOT A COWARD.

ppl love attackin the messenger cuz they cant find holes in the message
he fled to canada... that is deserting. question the war all you want, disagree with it all you want... i do! i sure as hell don't want to go back but i signed a contract and i intend to honor it... do i always agree with our government? no. BUT we take an oath to defend this country from all enemies foreign and domestic AND to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over us... thats the agreement you make when you sign on the dotted line... you go to war when your country says to, not when you think its ok. this man is a coward. he should be killed, i would pull the trigger myself with a smile... why? because he isn't helping his "brothers" survive over there...he isn't helping us by lying to the media, telling them we are ordered to kill civilians for "being in the area" how could he help? he could do his fair share and go on his second tour so that some poor specialist who loves his country isn't taken away from his family on an unexpected deployment to fill a spot left by a cowardly deserter...
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he deserted his country durring a time of war... that means he is a traitor, a coward, and a worm of a man... he can go ahead and protest all he wants... good for him, but deserting your country in a time of war is an unforgivable act of cowardice and it is punishable by death under th Uniform Code of Military Justice... this guy could be killed for what he has done... and he and those like him should be.
A time of war? Shit, I didn't know our country was really being attacked or threatened by Iraq. You are not a coward when u stand up for what you believe in. That is the meaning of a true patriot. Now, if our country was being attacked and you desert, then yes, you are a coward and a traitor. But when you go into a different country and try to establish dominance, you are the oppressor.

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he deserted his country durring a time of war... that means he is a traitor, a coward, and a worm of a man... he can go ahead and protest all he wants... good for him, but deserting your country in a time of war is an unforgivable act of cowardice and it is punishable by death under th Uniform Code of Military Justice... this guy could be killed for what he has done... and he and those like him should be.
This is ridiculous. Hes a coward for abandoning a war he doesnt beleive in? This war is an unjustifiable BS war against a country with no means to defend themselves.

The reason they were sent to Iraq is to find WMD's, "implement a democracy" and all of this was clearly a fabricated LIE.

Id say the real cowards are the people who are still in the war killing innocent Iraqi civilians. The real men are the people who walk away.

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Old 05-11-2008, 01:38 PM   #39 (permalink)

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he fled to canada... that is deserting. question the war all you want, disagree with it all you want... i do! i sure as hell don't want to go back but i signed a contract and i intend to honor it... do i always agree with our government? no. BUT we take an oath to defend this country from all enemies foreign and domestic AND to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over us... thats the agreement you make when you sign on the dotted line... you go to war when your country says to, not when you think its ok. this man is a coward. he should be killed, i would pull the trigger myself with a smile... why? because he isn't helping his "brothers" survive over there...he isn't helping us by lying to the media, telling them we are ordered to kill civilians for "being in the area" how could he help? he could do his fair share and go on his second tour so that some poor specialist who loves his country isn't taken away from his family on an unexpected deployment to fill a spot left by a cowardly deserter...
HAHA you're absolutely delusional.

Defend the country? From what? rocks? Iraq posed absolutely no threat to the US and have absolutely no nuclear program, WMD's.

You guys were in their for Oil and to fill the pockets of the few.

You're just an American sheep.
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he fled to canada... that is deserting. question the war all you want, disagree with it all you want... i do! i sure as hell don't want to go back but i signed a contract and i intend to honor it... do i always agree with our government? no. BUT we take an oath to defend this country from all enemies foreign and domestic AND to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over us... thats the agreement you make when you sign on the dotted line... you go to war when your country says to, not when you think its ok. this man is a coward. he should be killed, i would pull the trigger myself with a smile... why? because he isn't helping his "brothers" survive over there...he isn't helping us by lying to the media, telling them we are ordered to kill civilians for "being in the area" how could he help? he could do his fair share and go on his second tour so that some poor specialist who loves his country isn't taken away from his family on an unexpected deployment to fill a spot left by a cowardly deserter...
irdk wher to start. uppercuts and huflungpu hav done a good job.

u kno wat, i wont post a reply unless u post more of the same BS while completely ignoring the views offered to u by the two guys mentioned above

just remmeber when u say things like:

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this man is a coward. he should be killed, i would pull the trigger myself with a smile...

u come off as a douchebag

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