[Living Deth]

Who the f*&! is Bush to tell any damn country what to do in the first place?

That's what most people don't get. What would you think if Putin told us to all wear pink underwear?

Iran is Bush's goldmine...he was never concerned about Korea.

[bagamuffins]

[quote=cl****l;24015338]No American I know of supports sanctions against Cuba.

Except the americans in our govt. God forbid they get medicine and string for musical instruments. That alone perpetuates communism.

[halfkorean]

Originally Posted by J-I-GG-A

Bush administration lifts North Korea sanctions - Yahoo! News

so they'll lift them on North Korea but not Iran..lol..what a joke Bush is.
Good news for the Koreans, they're no longer in the axis of evil!! It's a celebration bitches!

Great, read one article on North Korea and now you are the expert?

It isn’t only about the nukes for North Korea, they are doing other things to meet demands (or so it seems.) They are in closer negotiations with South Korea, allowing relatives and families that have been torn apart for 50 years to reunite. They are sending back remains of soldiers that died in North Korea, to the United States and South Korea. They are building transportation lines to the South to help accommodate travel for the people allowed to come into the North. They still have a lot of work but at least they are at least acting like they want to change.

[Gandhi]

No American I know of supports sanctions against Cuba. Wish we would get over it already; it's stupid

+1 cold war relic pandering to the miami cuban vote

[Gandhi]

However, the declaration, which covers nuclear production dating back to 1986, does not contain detailed information about North Korea's suspected program of developing weapons fueled by enriched uranium.

It also does not provide a complete accounting of how it allegedly helped Syria build what senior U.S. intelligence officials say was a secret nuclear reactor meant to make plutonium, which can be used to make high-yield nuclear weapons. Israeli jets bombed the structure in the remote eastern desert of Syria in September 2007.

So its a gesture not much more

The question is, is the US action only a gesture as well, the article implies that it is.

[Heresy]

Iran has a lot of oil, and its major population centers aren't that easy to defend, which is why Western governments like to talk tough to them. It doesn't help that the North Koreans have already shown a willingness to back up their talk with some down and dirty infantry battles. Egypt is the only middle-eastern country that has shown an ability to intelligently deploy conventional forces in the past sixty years, which contributes to the Wests lack of respect for Iran.

[MODE ROGUE]

Originally Posted by J-I-GG-A

Bush administration lifts North Korea sanctions - Yahoo! News

so they'll lift them on North Korea but not Iran..lol..what a joke Bush is.
Good news for the Koreans, they're no longer in the axis of evil!! It's a celebration bitches!

Dude, why do you always have a boner for Iran?

































































jk

[redjako]

Originally Posted by J-I-GG-A

Bush administration lifts North Korea sanctions - Yahoo! News

so they'll lift them on North Korea but not Iran..lol..what a joke Bush is.
Good news for the Koreans, they're no longer in the axis of evil!! It's a celebration bitches!

Sanctions don't do shit anyway.

They have been empirically "proven" (examined) to be more a tool of political manipulation (voter perception) then any meaningful change in any government.

Sources available, but this is common knowledge amongst political scientists. Well, sure debates rage, but quantitatively, sanctions don't do shit. They are what I would call a "attitudinal" message from the sanctioner to the santionee.


lah.

[SmileyPSU]

Originally Posted by redjako

Sanctions don't do shit anyway.

They have been empirically "proven" (examined) to be more a tool of political manipulation (voter perception) then any meaningful change in any government.

Sources available, but this is common knowledge amongst political scientists. Well, sure debates rage, but quantitatively, sanctions don't do shit. They are what I would call a "attitudinal" message from the sanctioner to the santionee.


lah.

An "attitudinal" message needs to be sent from time to time. Better sanctions than missiles.

This is a step in the right direction, this is progress. There's still alot that needs to be disclosed by NK, but they gave us some valuable information, so they got something in return. I was pleased to read about this earlier today.

[Stringer Bell]

By taking North Korea off the Trading With Enemies Act, the U.S. is removing licensing requirements for Americans who want to import goods from North Korea; provisions that affect Americans involved in shipping goods from other countries into North Korea; and some prohibitions on financial transfers by the North Korean government.

The president, however, signed an executive order on Thursday to keep two other prohibitions in place. These involve the interaction of Americans with ships flying the North Korean flag; and the freezing of certain kinds of assets first placed on hold in 2000...

...The president insisted the U.S. was not giving North Korea a free ride, saying the U.S. action would have little impact on North Korea's financial and diplomatic isolation. "It will remain one of the most heavily sanctioned nations in the world," Bush said. All U.N. sanctions, for example, will remain in place....

...Bush said that to end its isolation, North Korea must, for instance, dismantle all of its nuclear facilities and resolve outstanding questions on its highly enriched uranium and proliferation activities "and end these activities in a way that we can fully verify."

So what's the big deal?

This is mainly a show of faith on both sides, nothing will really change until N. Korea gets serious about changing.