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Old 05-16-2008, 08:23 PM   #31 (permalink)

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they are fine.

did you read my link? no.......
Did you even read your own link?
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The various presentations of biased reporting ignore, or are ignorant of, the different reasons for changes in populations. If I thought that there were more bears now than 50 years ago and a reasonable basis to assume this would not change, then no worries. This is not the case.

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Look at the messengers: lobby groups for big business say there is no problem. Yes, conservation groups moved the issue forward for listing under the Endangered Species Act but this was already an issue that was founded on scientific information. The IUCN/SSC Polar Bear Specialist Group was moving on a Vulnerable designation (the same as Threatened under the Endangered Species Act) before anybody heard of actions from environmental groups. Sea ice change and habitat loss is the key driving force. Ignore the bears for a moment and look at the evidence for sea ice change: NASA is a key player in looking at the actual decreases in sea ice. It is an easy matter to put the dots together: no habitat, no seals; no seals, no bears. This never was an issue of polar bears alone. The only effective conservation approach is to protect the habitat and this is an issue of climate change. You can distort the issue any way you so desire. At the end of the day, the sea ice is disappearing. Take away the habitat and the species follows shortly thereafter (or before).
It argues the exact opposite of what you are saying.

Nice work.

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there's 25,000 of them vs. 5,000 in the 50's.


polar bears are just fine, but are being used by anti drillers and others, to the detriment of the inuits.
No, the polar bears won't be fine if their habitat keeps deteriorating. That's the entire point of the link that you posted.

This action won't affect the sustainability hunts that the inuits undertake for food. The sport hunters won't be able to bring bearskin rugs into the U.S. That's it. Stop pretending that this is all about the Indians.
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