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05-29-2007, 12:40 AM
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TV Contestants to Compete for Woman's Kidneys....
Are people seriously comfortable with this concept?
"A Dutch reality television show in which a terminally ill woman is to select one of three contestants to receive her kidneys when she dies is to air this week despite criticism that it pushes the boundaries of the format too far.
The government has called for De Grote Donorshow (The Big Donor show) to be dropped because it is "unethical" and "wretched" but the broadcaster BNN said it would go ahead to highlight the difficulties of searching for kidney donors.
In the show, due to be broadcast on Friday, a woman identified only as Lisa, 37, will select a recipient based on their history, profile and conversations with their families and friends. Throughout the 80-minute show, viewers will be invited to send Lisa text messages to advise her.
The ruling coalition parties the Christian Democrats and the Christian Union have condemned the show.
But BNN's chairman, Laurens Drillich, said the show would increase by a third the participants' chances of getting a new kidney. "The chance for a kidney for the contestants is 33%," he said. "This is much higher than that for people on a waiting list. You would expect it to be better, but it is worse."
BNN said it wanted to focus on the plight of kidney sufferers as a tribute to its founder, Bart de Graaff, who died of kidney failure five years ago in spite of several transplants.
There is evidence that an increasing number of Dutch viewers have been turning away from reality TV, of which the Netherlands is a pioneer, because they believe the subject matter too risque. One show to come under the spotlight is Spuiten en Slikken (Shooting and Swallowing) in which the presenters experiment with drugs and a range of sexual exploits.
Patty's Fort celebrated colonic irrigation, with the scatological remains shown in full on screen.
But attempts in 2005 to launch a sperm donor show, in which a woman was to select a father for her baby in front of the cameras, collapsed following a huge public outcry."
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...090151,00.html
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05-29-2007, 02:19 AM
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Why not?
People should be able to choose who gets their organs and if they want to make money off of it...
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05-29-2007, 07:11 AM
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Is it CT to believe that there is already a huge udnerground market for organs?
The TV-shows seems really unethical, it profits from the suffering of others, why is it good entertainment that 2 people will most likely die???
A dying person should not be able to choose whom gets their organs, there are waiting lists there for a reason and nobody should be able to cut ahead of the line, the ugly class society manifesting itself.
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05-29-2007, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YeahBee
Is it CT to believe that there is already a huge udnerground market for organs?
The TV-shows seems really unethical, it profits from the suffering of others, why is it good entertainment that 2 people will most likely die???
A dying person should not be able to choose whom gets their organs, there are waiting lists there for a reason and nobody should be able to cut ahead of the line, the ugly class society manifesting itself.
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I disagree. I should be able to give a kidney to my son. If my son, why not my wife? If my wife, why not my best friend?
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05-29-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultrashogun
I disagree. I should be able to give a kidney to my son. If my son, why not my wife? If my wife, why not my best friend?
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Oh of course but you should not be able to profit from it because then we would see the upper classes really abuse the system.
You wouldn't demand money from your family and friends would you?
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05-29-2007, 03:26 PM
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Whats the deal with Europeans and their sick and twisted reality TV shows?
The reality show "Survivor" sparked the flood of reality TV shows in the U.S. and we have the Europeans to thank for that show. Reality TV is the lowest form of entertainment, even lower than posting in the O.T.
P.S. I blame "The Ultimate Fighter" on the Europeans too.
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05-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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This is pretty disturbing. What next, a reality show where the loser gets killed and their organs harvested?
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05-29-2007, 03:45 PM
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Sweden was first with reality shows like survivor, huuuuge controversy when they first arrived because the first poor sod who was voted of commited suicide
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05-29-2007, 03:54 PM
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wow, this is actually pretty tasteless and exploitive.
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05-29-2007, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YeahBee
Sweden was first with reality shows like survivor, huuuuge controversy when they first arrived because the first poor sod who was voted of commited suicide
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why would anybody blame the show for that, if the guy killed himself thats his fault.
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